Ch.3 The Talmud
This is a long chapter, so put on some coffee and some comfy jammies. You are about to learn hidden mysteries and alarming ideology.
Keep in mind our legal disclaimer.
My personal philosophy is that everyone should be ready for a diaspora.
For those of us who have lived in seven or more homes and have moved around alot the knowledge of diaspora remains with us and the families who lived it and is continuous until haYom is fulfilled.
There are many a critique on Talmud, which means learning, and wikipedia states the following,
“The Talmud is the central text of Rabbinic Judaism and the primary source of Jewish religious law (halakha) and Jewish theology.”
According to chabad.org, “a collection of writings that covers the full gamut of Jewish law and tradition, compiled and edited between the third and sixth centuries.”
It’s much more than this however; the Talmud is a central tenet of rabbinic Jewish spiritual and legal authority which dictates all aspects of ones life, in legal regard, as to your thought process, personal actions, daily activity, clothing you wear, hygiene, diet, marriage, agriculture, economics, historical narrative, what you can and cannot believe, and traditions as evolved over millennia.
Talmud is made up of tractate, origin late 15th century from Latin tractatus, from tractare ‘to handle’ (Oxford dictionary) or tractō (discuss) and defines the following:
- treatise – a systematic exposition or argument in writing including a methodical discussion of the facts and principles involved and conclusions reached.
- dissertation – an extended usually written treatment of a subject.
This defines oral Torah (shebaal peh) as recorded by soferim (scribes) from a fiction/non-fiction narrative (aggadah), analysis of halachot (laws) and commentation (questions/answers) by Tosafot (medieval French rabbi) or those considered sages or baal horaah on ideology formed throughout diaspora.
Chabad.org, “The Talmud is huge and it contains exploration of the Mishnah, discussion, analysis, argument, stories, etc. Learning the Talmud at the pace of one page a day, takes seven years to finish. This is called Daf Yomi – a page a day.”
The simplest explanation is by wiki, “The entire Talmud consists of 63 tractates, and in standard print is 2,711 double-sided folios. It is written in Mishnaic Hebrew and Jewish Babylonian Aramaic and contains the teachings and opinions of thousands of rabbis.”
“Thus we define the Talmud as an encyclopedia of Jewish culture; in form, a supplement to the Bible, and in its contents, a summation of a thousand years of intellectual, religious and social achievements of the Jewish people,” Ben Zion Bokser.
But is the Talmud used as a supplement to Tanach or has Talmud and it’s sages replaced Tanach?
The answer will always be a different opinion from any rabbi at any given time. What we do know is that after the great sages, Rashi (11th century) and Rambam (12th century), Talmud had changed in perpetual.
What we discuss here is individual views towards Christianity, what is taught to the Yeshiva student, the talmidim, ger, or disciple of rabbi and modern discourse as accepted by Orthodox Judaism.
Any website or forum that you go to and post negative commentary about Talmud would result in this: antisemite, intolerant, bigot
The link above takes you to a conversation from long ago. I was not involved in that conversation, but it does address the vehement denialism and attempt to walk around reality with words like:
- always an explanation of quoted script (whether right or wrong)
- you’re not a learned person – (that’s a good 1)
- white Nazi
Today, the “politically correct” Talmud trolls are everseeking the slander of anyone who says “tractate says this,” which results in a myriad of boot stomping to stamp out the conversation.
As a Zawada Jew I get it and one must understand the hatred towards Jews is generally aimed at atheist bankers that we call apostates.
If they believe in HaShem then of course they would not do what they do.
Like most non-Jews and Jews alike, their family fled Germany/Poland and didn’t suffer the consequences of living under Hitler, nor did I. But my family did. The town of Zawada still stands about 30 miles from Auschwitz as a stark reminder that we Jews will survive the onslaught.
By the grace of YHWH we have and do survive.
I also understand that many of you are upset about the 6 million number. Ok. What about the 80 million who also perished? I really don’t care if the number is 6 million or six hundred – it still happened regardless of embellishment. I am living, breathing, proof of that time, as are many others.
Maybe the rest of society just doesn’t care as much as we do in remembering. I don’t speak for society and can only know what happened to my own family and history in Poland and keep that knowledge alive so others, nations, will not serve, nor meet that same fate some of us have endured.
When I am shopping at stores wearing my tzitzit, I will get some odd looks, but no one ever questions, “why are you wearing those,” to which the answer is “to remember to be the good guy.”
Why let any negative conversation about Talmud exist at all when the result is antisemitism = Hitler?
Of course that makes sense right? But so does justice, equality, and TRUTH. If you constantly slam your hands on the table then you only appear as a buffoon unable to speak.
The conversation of truth about the salvation of HaMashiach Jesus will continue as Onpiov Moshiach takes over the world and uses Talmud and it’s archaic followers to brand 666 upon themselves and the “gentile animals” of the world – harsh statement right?
Calling you a “gentile animal” is not a misunderstanding of tractate, it’s simply a misunderstanding by the author of the tractate. Talmud scribes DO NOT speak for all Jews – if they did Elohim judgment would continually be upon us.
The one thing no one will tell you is that at the end of the day of the thousands of pages of Talmud tractate and halakhah, is that the majority of it doesn’t apply to any modern Jews as there is no Beit HaMikdash and the majority of Israel is secular. In fact, as many would describe, Talmud is a historical archive of Judaic life, NOT Jewish life as the word “Jews” became known after the 17th century.
However, the Talmud is a vast archive of data covering everyday living such as:
- societal conditions and requirements
- agriculture regulation
- basic to advance apothecary/medicine (merits of eating 100 peppers etc,.)
- examination of legal exegesis (Gemara)
- philosophy, science, politics, ethics, morals
- legends, fables, fiction, non-fiction (aggadah, Midrash)
And vast amounts of traditional experience – added and updated belief – in cold wintery nations.
You can honestly say that the Talmud is the gateway to common law and many have echoed this statement.
Now the main argument against Talmud tractate is hate speech or anti-Christian, anti-gentile ideology found within this monumental work of over 800 years compilation.
800 years? I hear the lamentation and outcry by uneducated historians already.
Just as there is atrocity found within Torah and Quran, there is also such in Talmud. We find that much of what circulates the web (I keep up with the mainstream looneys) is misinterpreted by over zealous anti-Jewish personnas who DO NOT study Talmud or gathered their source without actually reading the verse/seder – this is the most common based on my research.
Some of the organizations are higher educated anti-Jewish sites such as theoccidentalobserver.net and renegadetribune.com who can put forth logical arguments when discussing hatred of us, that in my opinion should be calmly debated and rendered nil rather than shout antisemite!
Don’t get me wrong, I will be pointing out some absolutely bad apostate stuff here.
That being said, there is absolute anti-Christian tractate located within and that is the topic discussed here, other than the merits of reading and including Talmud in your daily diet, which the majority of you do not do anyway simply beacuse you are not Jewish or consider philology.
The main facet of Talmud and Judaism as a whole for some rabbi is the dissection from the Christian and gentile world.
Notice I said SOME, not all. Just as there exist Christian cults who have bizarre concepts (David Koresh) so do sects found in Judaism.
The stopping of mass conversion of Jews to Christianity was a European concern and now of course equally engaged in society.
That’s why it’s now illegal in Israel for a Jew to become a citizen when you believe in Jesus as Messiah.
“The 100-page decision said that belief in Jesus made one a member of another faith and ineligible for automatic Israeli citizenship, The Jerusalem Post, Hadashot and Yediot Ahronot reported. But the Jewish people has decided during the 2,000 years of its history’ that Messianic Jews ‘do not belong to the Jewish nation and have no right to force themselves on it. Those who believe in Jesus are, in fact, Christians.” link
Of course that’s what it’s always been about. The denial of the crucifed Mashiach and saying that Jews are no longer Jews who believe in Jesus as Immanuel.
However, this is not biblical. In fact, it’s against YHWH and Torah to deny Jews citizenship and any person, officer, politician who does so will have to answer to HaShem.
On the one hand, you’re a Jew if a professed atheist, on the other if you believe in the betrayed Messiah, born in the Levant, from the tribe of Judah – you’re not a Jew?
This is due from Devarim (Deuteronomy) 32, which contains the song of Moses,
28 For they are a nation void of counsel, neither is there any understanding in them.
29 O that they were wise, that they understood this, that they would consider their latter end!
This is the hypocrisy of what Jesus clearly laid out and what you will see throughout tractate of Talmud exegesis.
The Talmud is, at it’s core, a historical archive. The question all Jewish academia must ask in regard to the historical significance of Talmud is whether in fact all traditions created in diaspora, namely, Babylon, Spain, France, Partitions of Poland is actually Jewish tradition or a mixed bag of foreign/Jewish tradition?
Of course the easy answer is a mixed tradition as the Yiddish language is the end result of diaspora before Israel became a nation in 1948 and consists of German 75%, and a 15/10 between Hebrew and Polish (slavic). The language itself leans primarily to the Prussian side of the fence in evolution over the last 600 years.
Why 600 years?
Printing was oblique until the 16th century concerning rabbinic literature until Daniel Bomberg printed both the Jerusalem and Babylonian Talmud creating the Facebook of Judaism for the following centuries as standardized editions.
Before we discuss Talmud and the contents thereof, understand, it’s a vast collection of work. It is a centerpiece of study that should be included with any study of Tanakh to fully grasp Jewish life from both the authors view and from your own research concerning the historical data.
The stories and arguments found within are both fictional and non-fiction, yet many students are taught as though this is the inerrant word of YHWH which is of course not true. There are many, many embellished opinion, argument, and true/false historical narrative called commentary by sages and rabbi.
The commentary depending on the tractate is similarly structured (denoting singular authors) and form paragraph in Talmud books based on the following:
- The Gemara (we require knowledge of) relates, asks, answers, or cites – then a sage / rabbi will answer the question or expand upon the statement.
- “The sages taught or it is taught” – is a statement which answers questions with infallible commentary almost equal to the word of YHWH.
- This rabbi, or fictional person, said to that rabbi – sets the tone of a debate, which a sage or rabbi with the most knowledge in the subject will generally have the final say or a future commentator will update.
- Rabbi being groomed as Sage – will have their commentary amongst the most vivid or viable works of the day as the Talmud is the yellow pages for Orthodox.
Below are examples as found in tractate showcasing the structure.
Embellishment Example: Sukkah 52b (in blue)
הנהו תרתי כושאי דהוו קיימי קמי שלמה אליחרף ואחיה בני שישא סופרים דשלמה הוו יומא חד חזייה למלאך המות דהוה קא עציב א”ל אמאי עציבת א”ל דקא בעו מינאי הני תרתי כושאי דיתבי הכא מסרינהו לשעירים שדרינהו למחוזא דלוז כי מטו למחוזא דלוז שכיבו
“The Gemara relates with regard to these two Cushites who would stand before Solomon: “Elihoreph and Ahijah, the sons of Shisha” (I Kings 4:3), and they were scribes of Solomon. One day Solomon saw that the Angel of Death was sad. He said to him: Why are you sad? He said to him: They are asking me to take the lives of these two Cushites who are sitting here. Solomon handed them to the demons in his service, and sent them to the district of Luz, where the Angel of Death has no dominion. When they arrived at the district of Luz, they died.”
Above we see embellishment, a fictional story based on the opinion of a scribe who penned the story or fictional aggadah – a folklore if you will. Yet this is taught as actual fact – you can believe this really happened and why apostates teach “demonology” and “ancient Jewish magic” at university level.
This has opened up the field of exploring “controlling spirits” like Solomon by those who profess they are more intelligent than the average bear at many university and of course daily by celebrities claiming to be a high priestess of their respective Jewish cults on Twitter.
They tell you understanding demons like Solomon is in your interest to know, since you’re Jewish and all things are lawful to you for control. All Chutzpah.
Recently a young doctor of Psychology Lenore Zion, delved into “sexual blood magic” through her heretical satanic anti-Christian writings known as “Stupid Children” and a new TV series “Brand New Cherry Flavor” which depict human sacrifice, the desire of such, and the power that comes with the satanic belief. All Jews should be appalled and vehemently reject such as putrid trash and condemn the works of Lenore Zion instead of praising them.
Literally and figuratively these heretical fictions should be denounced by the Jewish community as nothing more than non-intellectual explorations of base carnal depravity.
Nonetheless, these apostates project their filth on the populace as they reject Elohim to their eternal doom.
YHWH condemns modern academia from Tel Aviv, Johns Hopkins, and Harvard.
Talmud Q & A Example: Sukkah 53a (statement / questions in blue, answers in green)
לוי אחוי קידה קמיה דרבי ואיטלע והא גרמא ליה והאמר רבי אלעזר לעולם אל יטיח אדם דברים כלפי מעלה שהרי אדם גדול הטיח דברים כלפי מעלה ואיטלע ומנו לוי הא והא גרמא ליה
“The Gemara relates: Levi demonstrated a kidda before Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi and strained his thigh and came up lame. The Gemara asks: And is that what caused him to be lame?
(The rabbi answer) But didn’t Rabbi Elazar say: One should never speak impertinently toward God above; as a great person once spoke impertinently toward God above, and even though his prayers were answered, he was still punished and came up lame. And who was this great person? It was Levi. Apparently his condition was not caused by his bow.
The Gemara answers (overall answer): There is no contradiction. Both this and that caused him to come up lame; because he spoke impertinently toward God, he therefore was injured when exerting himself in demonstrating kidda.”
Sage Example: Bava Metzia 59b snippet (sages in blue)
“It is taught: On that day R. Eliezer brought forward every imaginable argument, but the Sages did not accept any of them. Again R. Eliezer then said to the Sages, “If the Halakhah agrees with me, let it be proved from heaven.” Sure enough, a divine voice cried out, (divine voice meaning the voice of God) “Why do you dispute with R. Eliezer, with whom the Halakhah always agrees?”
R. Joshua (sage) stood up and protested: “The Torah is not in heaven!” (Deut. 30:12). We pay no attention to a divine voice because long ago at Mount Sinai You wrote in your Torah at Mount Sinai, `After the majority must one incline’. Exodus 23:2″
R. Nathan (sage) met the prophet Elijah and asked him, “What did the Holy One do at that moment?” Elijah: “He laughed (joyfully), saying, ‘My children have defeated Me, My children have defeated Me.'”
Above we have a very important rendering in this sage example. This really shows you the cunning of some of the authors and can be seen throughout Talmud tractate.
This is an argument between multiple rabbi. Rabbi Eliezer represents Jesus the Messiah in the story and can perform miracles in front of the other rabbi, but since they all unanimously disagreed with his argument they rejected him and could perform a miracle to stop him, which we know what that was – treachery.
R. Eliezer then asks God to prove himself to the sages, which a divine voice answers, “Why do you dispute with R. Eliezer, with whom the Halakhah always agrees?” (this is a mockery, basically saying you’re always right.)
The sages rebuke the divine voice and use Deuteronomy 30:12 and Exodus 23:2 as their evidence to denounce R. Eliezer or Jesus as Messiah (which states that Torah is not in heaven, but on earth and that the Jews were not to follow a multitude to do evil).
Of course neither scripture is evidence against Jesus as Mashiach, but rather the direct opposite.
Exodus 23:2 is evidence against the Sanhedrin (corrupt rabbi) for leading a multitude to do evil and murder a man through false witness.
Deut. 30:12 states,
“It is not in heaven, that thou should say, ‘Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it (the word of God) unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?'”
The tractate author literally unknowingly answers why Jesus was sent with this scripture. YHWH sent His Son of Man to earth, because we Jews would not listen to Torah, the prophets, but instead killed them, worshipped false idols, and served the desires of our own hearts and minds, as we are all guilty of doing, rather than serve the Lord our God.
Both scriptures used by this Talmud author editing Bava Metzia condemn rabbi for their sin. His attempt to justify denouncing Christ only denounced himself as YHWH makes evident through language in written form as to the forensic guidelines thereof.
Moreover, the author then equates that one of the sages meet with Elijah the prophet to ask what YHWH thought about the conversation, to which was replied that HaShem was, “laughing with joy” that His Jewish children defeated Him – the Mighty God Lord of Hosts – this is fictional writing of course.
You can see the inept madness above when one equates themself in defeating the creator of the universe. It’s simply a complete abandonment of sanity to equate oneself defeating God with legal argument for the purpose of attempting to scorn the HaMoshiach Jesus, son of the Most High Living God.
Quite astonishing to say the least.
When you equate yourself as “defeating God” you are surely a madman, a fasle scribe, a false teacher, and a ridiculous charlatan and any of your written work should be thrown to the flame.
You will find many tractate portraying such ridiculous fantasy, egomania, bouts of lunacy; the work of barely educated men with the mentality of children in many regards as the copyset scribe selling you their fictional aggadah. All the while under harsh warnings by those in authority telling you to believe every drop of their psychological disorders.
We see this both prevalent in Catholic and Judaic scribes in itteration, translation, exegetes.
Academic rabbi unafraid to speak this reality will be hard to find as the rabbinic authority is quick to condemn ANY notion that ANYTHING is falsely written in Talmud tractate.
This is prevalent throughout Talmud tractate and taught to children and adults daily as facts, not stories, or hyperbole.
Yet any sane person with low level skill in etymology, reasonable logic, philology, and the UNDERSTANDING of GRAMMAR can see right through this dogma taught as the inerrant voice of Eloheinu.
These medieval sages from the 14th century onward could not possibly have imagined language forensics of the future. Nor, could they retract what they wrote for all to examine.
It’s difficult going back in the past and rewriting ancient documents and then releasing new versions of anti-Jesus dogma. This is a continuous work in progress to say the least.
The attempt for any rabbinic scholar to either hide the manipulations of tractate, or confuse the historic facts of the real editors and authors through false dating is extremely vain and futile.
It’s simply impossible to do.
Anyone who examines the artifice with again, mid level skill, will see a painted Donkey called a Zebra.
This is an absolute insult to Talmud by scholars and editors who have eradicated a historic treasure to a personal rendition of it’s former self.
The corrupt scribes and editors attempt to wrap up tractate in a facade of personal fictitious belief taught as a historical narrative and pump this to the uninformed Jewish population.
They paint Donkeys and call them Zebras.
Now of course, again, this accounts for few tractate during diaspora. When you have a compilation manufactured over 600 years you are going to include the good with the bad and make updates via modern scribes and their new beliefs or opinions.
There are multiple repeated statements or phrases throughout Talmud which is the DNA forensic evidence of scribes in history doing translations or rendering new manuscripts.
One such example is the phrase, “the Holy One, Blessed be He.”
All documentation in history or etymology contain such footprints that pen the author of it’s time; the use of grammar, sentence structure, and colloquy determine the author’s personal voice, ideology, and culture of the times.
Any student of Talmud, namely talmidim, must read and view the manuscripts through the leading of YHWH. Anyone who blindly relies on a rabbi or prominent Yeshiva to interpret Talmud for them is a ship without a rudder. It could be argued that your rabbi IS the rudder for your ship, but this is a choice that you must personally make.
Choose either the rabbi as a rudder, or YHWH – the choice is yours alone.
I prefer YHWH as the water, the rudder, the wind, and the sails steering my ship.
As with all writings there are fiction and non-fiction narrative when it comes to historical recollection and as Homers Iliad is considered “partial history,” the Talmud is much more than that.
What I impart here is merely the view found in small portions of tractate, penned by a few historical authoritative figures concerning Christianity. Please keep this in mind when reading some of the passages that will no doubt boil the blood of any true servant of Jesus HaMashiach.
Keep this rule in mind,
Talmud is not anti-Christian, people are anti-Christian.
Just as antisemitism is real, so is anti-Christian doctrine.
I see websites and preachers shouting, “the Talmud is anti-Christian!!!”
That’s like saying the Bible is anti-African, anti-Caucasian, anti-Asian, or anti-Latino.
Now it can be viewed as such, or taught as such, but that is where religion strays from it’s origin, where religion, evolves, as did Christianity, Judaism, and Islam over the centuries.
Evolution happens when a person comes along and UPDATES previous concept, tradition, or halacha. There are all kinds of agreement or disagreement on these updates, but nonetheless we can trace the steps of such century by century.
That is what is done here – a little educating based on how a few persona in the historic travel of Talmud view Christians.
I being a Jew, can debate my opinion from Tanakh and Talmud based on my knowledge as well as any rabbi, Imam, or pastor and yet I serve none of them.
I serve only YHWH.
He is Elohai and His Son Jesus is HaMashiach who I serve.
Elohai abiyr has spoken mitzvah and I must obey YHWH over the sons of men. Those who come against me come against YHWH as I have this word from Elohim amen.
The culmination of sage mitzvot is Moshiach, the imbuing of the man by θηρίον, the beast through Talmudic dogma, and the ship which must steer to it’s end, shattered upon the rock which the builders have rejected.
Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures:
‘The stone which the builders rejected
Has become the chief cornerstone.
This was the Lord’s doing,
And it is marvelous in our eyes?'”
“Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it. And whoever falls on this stone will be broken; but on whomever it falls, it will grind him to powder.” Matthew 21:42-44
Christian libel by historical and modern rabbi in no way impart slander to all of sedarim or orders of Talmud, but rather showcase personal beliefs by men referred to as sages in literature. These men, sages, have modified, influenced, and extolled Talmud into what it is today.
The editor of the Babylonian Talmud states,
“We feel that every attack on it (the Talmud) is an attack upon the Jew.”
This is ONLY true for those Jews who accept the writings as their historical and traditional reality and to do so simply means you are an uneducated scholar and historian.
To suggest disagreement (attack) of tractate within Talmud is an attack on ALL Jews is a ludicrous statement.
It is no attack to say what is real, from what is fake!
Modern Talmud scribes who pretend they are the ultimate authoritative voice over Talmud and Jews are simply charlatans selling snake oil and propaganda to those who claim themselves to be Jews.
Again, any mid-level scholar can easily, and historically pin point the enormous multitude of erroneous translation, alterations, and fictions found within tractate. It has nothing to do with rocket science, but a simple understanding of historical narrative, the ability to translate Greek, Aramaic, French, and Hebrew (notice I went in order) and an understanding of Tanakh scripture.
Armed with etymology tools we Jews are not so easily tricked or swayed into the false ideology of the doctoral snakes which slither through the grass of Judaic exegesis.
The Babylonian Talmud editor is suggesting that the Talmud and Jew are as one, like the Borg from Star Trek – universal agreement and thought comparable to communism.
Lets ask the Yemenite Jews how they feel about that? Their tradition stems back in the Levant centuries before Sephardic/Ashkenazi or modern Judaism and over half of Israel is secular today.
That’s generally the problem we find with absolutes of men – they never fit the picture of what reality really is and Yemenite Jews showcase this oh too well with their centuries old traditions.
There is always a war waging between someone’s perceived dream of reality and actual truth.
Millions of Jews DO NOT believe in the writings found within Talmud. I am a Jew and do not agree with all of it, nor should we, as it is NOT the word of YHWH, but rather a fictional and non-fictional archive where rabbi and talmidim in history analyze the contents thereof – with some vastly incorrect opinions and alterations.
Sages and rabbi’s are not prophets, nor divine. They are faulty men who sin, just like all of us, although many would have you think otherwise.
Adonai Jesus stated, “But you, do not be called rabbi; for one is your teacher, HaMashiach, and you are all brethren.”
Today, there are too many Samuel’s and not enough Israelite’s. Armies of rabbi who enjoy adoration of god’s and power over peoples lives – the same old gig that caused diaspora.
YHWH displays that which is shrouded in secrecy and exposes the darkness with light to reveal what is hidden; what is truth from lie. For Eloheinu provides a light by His servants for those to escape the darkness to salvation.
May my Jewish brethren flee the darkness that holds them captive!
As Jews who follow YHWH, it is mitzvot to root out false teaching and false prophets as found aggressively within extant manuscript.
The Karaite will argue that Talmud is a violation of Torah, a manipulation of history and scripture within Tanakh. The rebuttal argument by the Orthodox is that, “the Karaite as a people died off a thousand years ago, so why should we listen to them?”
Karaite maybe a small community, but have a long recorded history to debate any modern approach concerning oral Torah to this day.
At any rate, the Talmud provides a fingerprint about historical communities within Europe and for any astute student of Law to understand the basis for modern civic legislature and examanation of halacha.
There is always a cunning argument to win a legal debate.
That is our Jewish nature to win an argument and be the best pious Jew in the shtetl that we can be. Have our name written in lights throughout the Talumd, through commentary, to prove our Yeshiva and how wise we are to become the most revered of all – a sage, or Tzadik representing our sect.
In the mind of some, not all Jews, it’s ok for rabbi to trounce our Messiah through the mud, call Him a fraud and idolatry without regard to reality or historical fact, for the mere purpose of stopping Jewish conversion to Christianity.
To accuse educated men and women for thousands of years to never have had enough sense to actually read books other than the Talmud and Mishneh is ridiculous. Making a decision to accept the reality that Isa, Yeshua, Eashoa, Jesus is HaMashiach does not merely come from reading scrolls or books, but direct from YHWH.
At least Islam has respect for Jesus who they call Isa, a great man and prophet. We find no such respect for Jesus by rabbi authors in Talmud tractate Gittin and Sanhedrin. We find the opposite: fiction, blasphemy, slander. and insult from those who profess they are pious and good.
When confronted with this, all you hear is mocking, laughter, or outright denial of any historical fact regarding such with, “it’s all debatable,” or that the obligation of the ger is to follow the laws of idolatry as laid out by HaRamBam.
Talmud Gittin 57a
Onkelos said to him: What is the punishment of that man, a euphemism for Jesus himself, in the next world? Jesus said to him: He is punished with boiling excrement. As the Master said: Anyone who mocks the words of the Sages will be sentenced to boiling excrement. And this was his (Jesus) sin, as he mocked the words of the Sages. The Gemara comments: Come and see the difference between the sinners of Israel and the prophets of the nations of the world. As Balaam, who was a prophet, wished Israel harm, whereas Jesus the Nazarene, who was a Jewish sinner, sought their well-being.
The above verse simply says that Jesus is a sinner boiling in excrement for all time.
Some people find this insult and blasphemy to be real funny, Christians are not amused at this child like slander which has been the cause of antisemitism many, many times.
By the 15th century scribes commenting in Talmud had made it quite clear how they should deal with Jewish Christians and those who believe in the Mashiach as did Martin Luther against us Jews.
The Crusades and antisemitism in Europe will always be argued and rightly so, but the New Testament DOES NOT have doctrine that declares followers of Mashiach are to destroy Jews.
This was simply men who formed idology in their heads, gained a following of simple sheep believing the false interpretations which created a fork in the road for those who follow both Yeshua and Moshe.
Christianity, the Quran, and Talmud were updated with ideology to destroy cultures of people and only fools listen to those who preach nonsense concocted in Europe and Asia under the guise of tradition.
But that’s what people do – cling to tradition no matter how faulty or inaccurate.
The learned sages of history had forgotten the result of blasphemy, hatred, and insults of their rabbinite predecessors before them, which led to the destruction of Jews and diaspora multiple times.
The regular people ALWAYS suffer for what their ignorant leaders do.
Why do you think Talmud was burned wherever found in Europe and our families kicked out of Italy, Spain, and France? The answer is always “antisemitism” to the uneducated masses. Jewish culture teaches our children that it’s always about antisemitism – the evil Christians, but never about a few rabbi blaspheming Christos in Talmud tractate and developing a new religion to keep themselves in power.
If the King of your country is Christian, why would he put up with locals insulting his savior, redeemer, and the Son of YHWH?
Quite stupid to ask right?
As a Jew, I always read history from the antisemitic point of view – it’s never portrayed as the sins of neurotic Jewish leaders OR billionaire playboys who believe in fictional narratives invented or handed down to them.
Within Torah we find humility, meekness, and wisdom, such as by Daniel the prophet, when dealing with foreign Kings and leaders. Some revered sages judged to diaspora by YHWH, felt no obligation in their writings to pen respect, but chose denigrating Jesus the Messiah, Emperors, and Kings with the tongue and pen.
How quickly we forget our chastisement is evident to anyone pondering Talmud tractate and it’s authors.
It’s quite foolish not to ponder blowback that would ensue for such insults against Jesus the Messiah while living under a Christian King or ruler. What did the leading rabbinate think would happen in Spain to the Jewish people for such insolence or worse in Germany under Martin Luther?
We have ample evidence of how the Jewish community was treated under Calpihate rule over 900 years and the result of slandering Muhammed, which was swiftly met with death and destruction.
Did they think the King of Spain would send them flowers for cursing Jesus his savior?
The end result under both Islam and European rulers was the burning of Jewish written works, bloodshed, eviction, and unjust taxation, again, for the stupidity of a few men who like to insult.
All the regular Jews in history and now (you and I) suffer for what ignorant teachers decide to write as heinous insults under the guise of truth to stop conversion to Christianity.
Not unlike Lenore Zion who uses her pen to justify heinous sacrificial murder for “exploratory understanding of the human psyche.” Why would any professor want to ignite blood libel against Jews again !!! ??
Where is the correction from the rabbi to Lenore Zion? Where is the warning? Blood cult majic is abomination, blood libel, and forbidden by YHWH.
“It’s only communicated for historical purposes,” is the dismissive sentiment when in reality necromancy is alive and well today with Jewish magic allowed to be studied in Tel Aviv and Hebrew University.
Similary, the ADL files Amicus with the courts AGAINST every Christian organization in their fight for civil liberty for LGBT, locking down Churches, for the end goal of eradicating a political base, funding, and exemptions from the U.S. government.
I remind you of what Elijah did with the Baal’s.
YHWH does not agree with their practice as according to Torah and Talmud; all Jews who do so are kareth.
YHWH is judge over all.
After 2,000 years of Jesus being worshipped as HaMashiach King of Israel and YHWH proving this to us Jews, removing us nation to nation as we denied His son and blasphemed Him, causing the Kings of the nations to correct us; still the Sanhedrin Jew spits on the cross and turn their back to YHWH under the guise of “the sages said…”
YHWH continue to have mercy on us until your Yom!
The above fictional verse about Jesus in Gittin, one of many, is a compilation of fictional narrative, traditional home remedies for illness, superstitions about demons, and how to communicate with the dead through magic and necromancy. Yes, you heard the last part right.
Clearly, any sane logical person will realize what is being taught to children the world over by a minority much like any cult to brain wash people.
Many stories equate to fictional super hero jargon, like the following,
“…there was a certain man named bar Deroma who could jump the distance of a mil, (2/3 rd of a mile!) and he killed many of the Romans, who were powerless to stand up against him.”
There are many stories about raising people from the dead through magic and necromancy, including Jesus the Messiah, just to mock or insult them. YHWH forbids necromancy, but the sages figured out a good argument how to get around this, much like all of YHWH mitzvot that cannot be followed that jeopardizes a belief or a financial gain.
Examples of getting around mitzvot are: Jubilee agriculture/loans, Pesach, Yom Kippur, Sukkot, and all of korbanot.
The sages in diaspora, unable to perform mitzvot (korbanot) without Beit HaMikdash, argued a logical way around all of it, based on their status as “the authoritative rabbi,” who must be adhered to as the voice of YHWH.
The commentary of sages or your rabbi interpret for you what G-d is saying. Never mind your own thinking brain – YOU DON’T HAVE ONE – only the sages do, as they make up all the NEW mitzvot you must follow, as your prophet, mentor; revered as messiah, obeyed as a god or kareth.
Kareth is complete spiritual separation from YHWH, eternal doom, and cut off from your community. You become ousted from your parents home, financially severed, scorned, and no longer a Jew or a person for that matter.
Some of these concepts are taught to every student in Yeshiva across the world as fact, but much is fantasy, manipulation of scripture, alteration of the word of YHWH and depravity.
You do not just revere the rabbi sages in Talmud, if you disagree with what they say, you better have a good reason that is approved by the chief rabbi, which never will be. His authority will be over you for life, unless you become a rabbi yourself – then and only then can you have an opinion, which will still be trounced.
It’s the old Army saying, “If I want your opinion, I’ll give it to you.”
You must do something to prove you have a voice and a brain; invent the next cancer treatment, win the Nobel prize, make a billion dollars as an atheist, be a political magnet, or a profitable movie producer – then you become a kosher Jew. Then you have something of an opinion to offer, but you’re still a troglodyte compared to a sage.
You’re never good enough unless you do what they do and what they do is never good enough for YHWH.
A rabbi may recite what he considers three blessings,
- thank you for not making me a gentile
- thank you for not making me a woman
- thank you for not making me an ignoramus or slave
Those who have the spirit of YHWH say, “Glory and praise to the most high, YHWH, and to His lamb HaMashiach Jesus, forever and ever!”
Those in YHWH through Ruach Hakodesh are free of obedience to sages, rabbi, or priest, for you are elect to YHWH through His spirit by faith as Abraham, through His son, מלך יהודה our redeemer and heir to eternal life.
Sages and all who serve under them are under mitzvot judgment and it is written by Adonai,
“He who receives you receives Me, and he who receives Me receives Him who sent Me. He who receives a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet’s reward. And he who receives a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man’s reward. And whoever gives one of these little ones only a cup of cold water in the name of a disciple, assuredly, I say to you, he shall by no means lose his reward.”
What is better, the reward of YHWH through His spirit, or the reward of a sage?
The sages created many new traditions and halacha, adding them to the 613 mitzvoh compiled by Rambam, during diaspora in 12th century Europe. Any person who wishes to know can trace all of it, STEP by STEP, over the last twelve centuries.
They were the smart scribes who could read and write, amongst illiterate scattered Jews, and only a few guys possessed the capability to argue what they were saying. As their power progressed and their reverence built due to the printing press, the following equation was formed.
To disagree with a sage = you’re no longer a Jew.
This is the modern LAW, halacha, taught by Orthodox rabbi, but Talmud does not teach this.
Mind you, the primary authors are from 10-12th century, yet this too is argued that sages go back to the 1st century with the House of Hillel.
The word sage doesn’t exist until the 12th century when much of modern Talmud was contrived and circulated through print by the 16th century.
I have no doubt of Sanhedrin tradition and the House of Hillel, yet Hillel never referred to himself as a sage nor would he, as the Greek translated word would not exist until twelve centuries later.
The word sage 12 – 14th century is a French translation of the Greek sophos and is someone who has obtained wisdom, but always from a standing of Greek literature supporting Greek philosophy and Greek gods. False gods, if you believe in YHWH.
σοφὸς – Sophos (singular masculine) English pronounced (sa-fas).
Below is the etymology of the word sage. Notice the date of creation in literature for you brain washed talmidim that are not allowed to learn anything other than what your rebbe tells you.
- “wise,” c. 1300 (late 12th century as a surname), from Old French sage “wise, knowledgeable, learned; shrewd, skillful” (11c.), from Gallo-Roman *sabius,
- from Vulgar Latin *sapius, from Latin sapere “have a taste, have good taste, be wise,”
- from PIE root *sap- “to taste”
- kind of herb (Salvia officinalis), early 14th century from Old French sauge (13c.), from Latin salvia,
- “man of profound wisdom,” mid-14th century (Babylonian Talmud origin with sage 1342)
- from sage (adj.). Originally applied to the Seven Sages (Greek) – Thales, Solon, Periander, Cleobulus, Chilon, Bias, and Pittacus.
Sage is and always has been a French word from Greek and Latin.
Karl Ludwig Michelet wrote that “Greek religion culminated with its true god, the sage.” Pierre Hadot develops this idea, stating that “the moment philosophers achieve a rational conception of God based on the model of the sage, Greece surpasses its mythical representation of its gods.”
Indeed, the actions of the sage are propounded to be how a god would act in the same situation.
We see the origins of the word sage in the works of Empledocles, Epicurus, Horace, Plato, and Aristotle.[link]
There are of course volumes of Greek historical work explaining sophos, ALL of which pre-date any use by rabbi for more than a millennia.
How then did the word sage works it’s way into rabbinical writing, commentary, and tractate notably the Talmud and Mishneh?
There are over 20,000 text within modern Talmud and Mishneh writings with the word sages.
And we find literature such as this:
Sages (Heb., hakhamim, sing., hakham). Jewish scholars and biblical interpreters, often translated as ‘the Wise’. The sages were the active leaders and teachers of the Jewish religion from the beginning of the second Temple period until the Arabian conquest of the East. They are also known as Ḥazal, an acronym for Ḥakhameynu zikhronam li-berakhah, ‘our sages of blessed memory’.[encyclopedia]
The above encyclopedia.com reading refers the French word sages as meaning the Hebrew word “chakam” or “chachamim” for “the wise” and is complete utter nonsense and inaccurate.
First of all, the French (origin from Greek) sage is a noun – describing a person.
Chakam – חָכַם is a verb meaning “to be wise.”
Now the author could have mistakenly meant the word חָכְמָה – chokma, but this too is a verb, meaning to be filled with wisdom. Again, not referring to a person, but the occurrence of wisdom.
It’s easy to say that rabbinical historians and modern rabbi making posts or writing any documentation choose to use the word sage over wise men, or that none of this matters as we are describing a wise person.
This is not the case, as again, we have either a verb or a noun.
If you translate, “The son is wise,” to “The son is a sage,” – these are two different meanings.
πότερον σοφὸς (sophos) ἀπόκρισιν δώσει συνέσεως πνεύματος καὶ ἐνέπλησεν πόνον γαστρὸς
Greek Septuagint to English, Job 15:2
“Does a wise man answer with blustery knowledge, or fill his belly with the east wind?”
Job 15:2, JPS 1917
הֶֽחָכָ֗ם יַעֲנֶ֥ה דַֽעַת־ר֑וּחַ וִֽימַלֵּ֖א קָדִ֣ים בִּטְנֽוֹ׃
Does a wise man answer with windy opinions, And fill his belly with the east wind?
Incorrect translation of Job 15:2,
“Does a sage answer with blustery knowledge, or fill his belly with the east wind?”
Do you see the difference?
Now instead of anyone being a “wise man” this is attributed ONLY to sages.
For ANY Talmud tractate commentary, or otherwise that contains a rendition in Hebrew that states the word sages in place of the Hebrew word,
was constructed no earlier than the 12th century through French rabbi. This is fact and not debatable.
The French sages, or the Greek sophos, always refer to Greek wise men in history.
It is not until the 12th century do we see the Hebrew word change from being filled with wisdom, Chakam/hakham, to using the Greek sophos in it’s place.
But the average Jewish teacher (rabbi) simply ignores this fact or doesn’t know it. He believes what he is told, the rest is hidden. Why?
We understand Talmud through tradition and what we are told by the head rabbi, or Rosh HaYeshiva. Only those of us who study forensic language as a job, rather than just study of tractate, understand this reality.
Translation from Hebrew to English does not render a French word as seen in ALL English translation of Talmud, which displays the inaccurate use of the word, or defying the linguistic logic; an error, a manipulation of text and language for a purpose.
Please educate yourself my Jewish brethren of the damning mistake made by scribal manipulation of YHWH scripture.
Translation of French to English my friend,
“Son père est un sage.” – His father is very wise. (French to English)
Hebrew to English does not translate to a French word (sage). Do you understand?
Why is the word used? Think with your brain !!
Look at the thousands of verse attributing “the sages said,” – the word sage deifies the person communicating to you and makes him YOUR god.
This is a fact, according to Nachmanides, Rashi and Rambam. If you argue this reality, you are simply ignorant of the knowledge of your manipulation.
Please read on to understand how you insult all historic rabbi using this term so that you may become תָּמִים tamiym.
For the Jewish students of historical Talmud, not those who study it’s exegesis, but those who research the origin and etymology, we know the facts, while the rest scuttle around in darkness under their rabbi; learning a pretense of the actuality, while those armed with the truth mediate the scorn of ignorance.
One example of this apparent defect in etymology is the use of the phrase “Nehardean sages” when describing rabbinical academies or Jewish communities in Iraq 2nd – 3rd century. The problem is not the historical tractate describing the Babylonian period of Jewish life, but the use of the word sage to describe such.
Yet we see this description from rabbi, wikipedia, dictionary, and aspiring doctoral candidates.
Is this just mere ignorance passed down teacher to student in blind academic devotion, or rather the disinterest in proper archaeological description of the epoch as required by any legitimate peer reviewed journal?
The fact of using a 14th century term, “sage,” to describe 3rd century historical figures is absurd. Yet, the brain washing is so permeated, the error so egregious, notable PhD wantonly quote such silly terminology as “Nehardean sages” without hint of the preposterous conflict the very term displays.
It’s easy for the ignorant to brush the shoulder off and say, “So what, we are just describing ‘wise men’ in history with the word sage. What’s the big deal?”
The least antagonistic answer is, if we are going to go with Greek or Latin words describing Jewish wise men why don’t we change the word to something a little less insulting than sage, perhaps sabine?
Sage is about as egregious as it can get when defining a Jew.
The definition of Sage is Greek idol worshipper.
Sabine is almost the same as sage in its description; the Greek’s worship Greek deities, whereas sabines worship Roman deities, just not as feverish in the pandering of false gods as the Greek sage (the word sabine is a lesser evil).
The alarming answer is, you are using the definition of Greek wise men who worship false Greek gods to describe a Jewish rabbi, as that is the meaning of sage, from Greek/Latin to French, but seemingly that is too difficult, or obvious to understand for some reason.
As I communicate this reality to those suffering lack of this knowledge, I can’t help but to think of Spock, as portrayed by Leonard Nimoy, iterating logic as calmly as possible to the Klingon hell bent in his tradition.
Every single time a person calls a rabbi or a Jewish historical figure a sage, I want to proclaim as Spock did, “Fascinating..” as those who do so are ignorantly insulting the Jew and saying they are worshipers of Greek idols.
You might not mean it that way, but a train is a train and a dog is a dog.
We, as literary authors, are unable to change the “meaning of the word.” We can certainly manipulate the rendering to say whatever we want in text, like tikkun haolam, but this by no means changes the historical origin. A tree will always be a tree – no matter what language it changes to.
Why would a Jewish rabbi use the word sage if it describes the worship of Greek deities?
To answer that you would have to get in a time machine and fly back to the time of Rashi and the French rabbi’s who coined it. Who knows why they did it and it really doesn’t matter anyway; the chosen word exposed them for what they are, false representatives of YHWH.
Eloheinu always exposes the truth.
No man who serves YHWH can be represented with the French word sage, as again, this word describes wise men who worship false Greek deities, which is idolatry to a Jew, Muslim, and Christian. You can argue this fact, but it does not change the history of the word, nor hide it.
However, I am sure Plato and Aristotle can give a better explanation than any of us at the day of judgment by YHWH.
You have to ask, why do rabbi or academia not change this reality?
The truth is, it’s too late to change. There are 667 million google search results of the term sages and 20,000+ renderings in modern Talmud using the word. It’s a colossal mistake of epic proportions and it’s a heck of alot easier to just go with it.
Yes, it’s outlandish to see in printed form knowing the reality of this and the only way to sustain the future integrity of Jewish culture is to change historical past.
I have no doubt that dictionary and encyclopedia will be changed in the future to reflect the word sage as developing in the 1st century as a French word, rather than the 14th century. We already see the manipulation of Encyclopedia falsely stating that “the sage was a 2nd century persona.”
Only academic historian know the truth of etymology, the rest of society merely reads what has been manipulated in print to hide the mistakes, or sins of their forefathers.
Again, it’s impossible to hide the origin of a word.
One can go to great lengths changing historical education, as is standard practice in American academics, but burning books to eradicate knowledge has never worked permanently. YHWH allows preservation of history and although cunning men have attempted many a time to change history – the truth prevails.
The other question is, why would they change it? This would suggest a manipulation of tractate from it’s origin – and uh oh, we can’t have that, because you are told its from the 5th century and remember, you are not allowed to question a sage.
You may not heed my advice, but just know this, every time you refer to Rambam, or Rav Huna as a historic sage, you are insulting them by saying they worship Greek idols, which means you are slandering your rabbi and require asham.
You might not mean it that way, but saying the “F” word, is still saying the “F” word, which is a curse word and you are saying this about Tzadik every time you say the word sage !
Whether you mean it or not this makes you טָמֵא tame (defiled) and you require asham. Once you realize through asham you have done this sin then you must chatat!
מְכַסֶּ֣ה פְ֭שָׁעָיו לֹ֣א יַצְלִ֑יחַ וּמוֹדֶ֖ה וְעֹזֵ֣ב יְרֻחָֽם׃
He that covers his sins shall not prosper but whosoever confesses and forsakes them shall have mercy.
The word sage is a catch 22 don’t ya think?
This is the difference between those who are blind and deaf and follow the blind and deaf. Those who call themselves Jews (from the tribe of Judah) are neither from the tribe of Judah, nor understanding the reality of the manipulators who deceive them.
The servants of YHWH – DO NOT USE THE WORD SAGE TO REPRESENT a TZADIK, RABBI, or JEW ! For to do so is slander.
Go ahead and take a half hour out of your life to research this for yourself and you will find this to be true. Here is a link to the etymology origin (sage).
If your rabbi tells you to sacrifice a lamb on an altar he built and says, “it’s ok, I allow it, just do it,” will you listen to him and do as usual – blindly follow a rabbi’s opinion as usual?
The Jewish Virtual Library states,
“To this day, Maimonides and the French Jewish sage Rashi are the most widely studied Jewish scholars. Contemporary yeshiva students generally focus on the Mishneh Torah, and his Book of Commandments (Sefer haMitzvot) a compilation of the Torah’s 613 commandments.”
Of course they do. This is the new word of YHWH for most of modern Judaism, but again argued as an in depth study of historical halakhah, hermeneutics as made it’s way throughout the ages, through diaspora, expounded upon by 12th century rabbi and evolved to what we have this day.
The French translated word by Rashi “sage” is a neologism or a newly coined word found within tractate 13th century and in which took hold to this very day. A newly coined word based on the fact Jewish personnas up until that time were never referred to as Greek “sages”until the French word was translated in print by French rabbi.
The title sage, afforded only to Greek idolaters, under Rashi became the title of all Tzadik in Talmud tractate whether you accept this truth or not you are unable to go back in history and eradicate the word out of the text!
This was well known Greek theory or transmutation described under Zosimus of Panopolis (3rd/4th AD), who has written, according to many, the oldest known books about alchemy.
“Ekstrophē can be found in the works of Zosimus, who discussed transmutation to make an analogy with self-purification processes, which, from the perspective of his own anthropogony, consisted in the “turning inside-out” of the “inner human” esō anthrōpos.” https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26307909/
Transmutation or ekstrophe “the composition of waters, movement, growth, embodying and disembodying, drawing the spirits from bodies and bonding the spirits within bodies.”
“The ancient and divine writings say that the angels became enamoured of women; and, descending, taught them all the works of nature. From them, therefore, is the first tradition, chema, concerning these arts; for they called this book chema and hence the science of chemistry takes its name.” Zosimos
This transmutation of hakham to sage displays not only the knowledge of Greek philosopy and the marriage betwen French and Greek literature, but to the dross which would ensue through the trasmutation (self purification) process of rendering Tzadik as gods or “sages” in written work.
The infectious spread of the word has encompassed every tractate in Talmud to be updated with the Greek to French phrase.
This is understandably obvious based on the French word derived in all English text, or the linguistic error of Modern Hebrew / English translations retaining the French word in translation.
In other words, a Hebrew translation should NEVER retain a French word. The Hebrew should be a Hebrew word, NOT a French word when translating to Hebrew or English!
If one does not understand the statement above then you are lost to the void of etymologic confusionism so prevalent amongst false scribes this day.
Albeit the majority of those who read the word sage have absolutley no understanding of the etymology or origin of the word, which naturally displays the ignorance of those who not only use the word in text, but ascribe fictional historical narrative about characters (from the 3rd century) with a “sage” title when the word “sage” would not exist for millennia.
It’s really quite simple. Any time you see the word sage, understand this is NOT a hebrew/masoretic/aramaic term, but a Greek word in use for over a thousand years in which a French rabbi selected to use as describing Jewish Tzadik.
Any other narrative or historical explanation of the word is mere fiction.
There is no way to prove all tractate Talmud before AD 1342 with the bits and pieces we have as the embodiment today. That may change in the future with more discovery in archaeological digs in the Levant, but as of now this is our Jewish reality.
Rabbi and talmidim are told, “Talmud was created 2nd – 6th century CE,” but there is no evidence of this; only fragments exist of what is extant from AD 1342 codex 95.
Babylonian Talmud Manuscript Munich Codex Hebraicus 95
Numerous entries of the names of owners trace the history of the manuscript written in France in 1342 Anno Domini. It is the only surviving manuscript in the world that contains, with the exception of two missing leaves, the complete text of the Babylonian Talmud including some extra-canonical tracts: Derekh Eretz zuta, Pirkei Azzai, Kallā, Sôferîm, and Gērîm.[codex 95]
How many manuscripts do we actually have to prove this is not manipulated or that any tractate was rewritten based on the view of a scribe?
According to Dr. Menachem Katz,
“The precise breakdown is as follows:
- Ashkenazic or Italian hand — 35
- Yemenite hand — 6
- Sephardic hand — 22
- Byzantine — 5
“Noticeably, nearly all these surviving manuscripts are European or North African, while a few are Yemenite in provenance. None contain complete tractates copied in the Orient, i.e., Babylonia and its environs, where the Talmud originated, although pieces of manuscripts from this region have indeed survived.”
“The oldest extant manuscripts are from the eleventh or 12th century, with the oldest dated one was written in 1177; most were written in the 13th-15th centuries, though several from Yemen date to the 16th or 17th centuries.”
Dr. Menachem Katz is Academic Director Emeritus of the Friedberg Manuscripts Project in Jerusalem.
Dr. Katz doesn’t sugarcoat the reality of what we have as extant documents, nor does he assume what century they were created – he goes off the dates of what is extant (12th century) as is his job as Director over the manuscripts in his possession.
If you talk to Chabad Lubavitch or Ger Hasidic they will tell you emphatically that Talmud was created in Babylon around 500 BCE, which is total rubbish. It’s complete fantasy and delusion to believe this false narrative as the only evidence we have is from the 14th century.
The data found in Talmud tractate have easily been manipulated over centuries as has the epistles, Tanakh, and New Testament to become wholly different archives of information based on what we have as extant.
What we do know AS FACT is the majority of historic information found with tractate is European descriptions of life, culture, weather, belief and law pertaining to all things.
Dr. Katz goes on to say,
“It is important to distinguish between scribal errors and scribal corrections. The Talmud was copied by professional scribes and students in a centuries-long process. One manuscript was copied from another (sometimes more than one), and mistakes, known as scribal errors, crept in during copying. Sometimes copyists read the text incorrectly, while on other occasions, they accidentally omitted entire words, phrases, and whole lines. Thus, one class of variants derives from scribal errors.”
What Dr. katz is very nicely saying is, we know there is manipulation, it’s not a debate by rebbe or rabbi, or an explanation as to why – it is what it is – as Jerry Seinfeld hates to say, manipulation, omission, changes, when deemed fit by scribal rabbi at the time.”
Now as a Christian you might find it a little ridiculous when Chabad-Lubavitch question the history of Jesus as a documented person and non-manipulated manuscripts when Christians have the following:
To date, over 5800 Greek New Testament fragments have been found (Taylor, 2012). Over 10,000 Latin New Testament manuscripts dating from the 2nd to 16th century have been located. Languages, include Coptic, Syriac, Gothic, and Arabic. Over 25,000 handwritten copies of the New Testament have been recovered.
How many extant manuscripts for Talmud?
68 from the 12th and later centuries.
Blatantly, it’s pure bias for anyone in academia to argue Talmud authenticity over Christian, Islamic, or Masoretic manuscript or historical data of the Messiah Jesus. It’s not academic, legitimate, ground in any fact, or intellectual, it’s simply bias born out of anti-Christian dogma found within few tractate.
Christian extant manuscripts not only dominate all historical literature, even that of Roman Caesars, but exist from the 1st century after HaMashiach ascension.
Judaism, nor Islam, can boast this reality.
In fact, Talmud evidence is last in line when considering extant material from Christian and Muslim literature. Anyone with a PhD willing to argue this fact please email me and we’ll talk about it.
- Christian Gospel 1st century (fragment)
- Codex Vaticanus 4th century Complete Bible (Tanakh & New Testament)
- Islam Quran Ma’il 8th century
- Codex Leningrad Masoretic Text 10th century
- Leiden Jerusalem Talmud 1289 13th century
- Babylonian Talmud Codex 95 1342 14th century
Islam predates Talmud by 3 centuries, Christian – by 900 years.
Yet academia continuously wage war with historical narrative to manipulate reality and deceive the reader.
I have noticed at thegemara.com the date for Talmudic evidence keeps creeping lower and lower, down to the 8th century now as I scan the up and coming laureates. Soon the fragments will be right where you want it – 6th century!
Please be careful, prospective doctors, promoting flimsy evidence for Talmud, like Aramaic Incantation bowls, can backfire, as the secular world will prove otherwise and this will damage hard fought Jewish academic reputation.
Suggesting incantation bowls as evidence for Codex 95 Gittin & to represent all of Talmud is an imaginative stretch; just a small piece of the oceanic puzzle that makes up Talmud.
Now I have no doubt there will be more fragments unearthed that validate more of the 63 tractate found in Talmud, it just hasn’t happened yet and we don’t know if the opposite will occur – once again, prove extant tractate writing false.
The argument is that “Jewish scholars believe” based on the rabbinical authors known in history through fragmented writings and description of times, such as in Babylon, and recognized traditions within the first five centuries AD, that the Talmud was finalized between 2nd and 6th century.
That means very little, as it is not until AD 1342, do we see a complete Babylonian Talmud. All other manuscript that exist are mere fragments.
Take off your shirt, cut a four inch hole out of it, and there you have it – all existing fragments compared to the Babylonian Talmud of AD 1342!
There is literally and critically no way to PROVE the majority of the tractates as recorded in 1342 as correct or corrupt. We do have clear evidence of manipulation after the 12th century and we are fully aware of the scribes during this time.
As descendants of Israel we hate to hear that.
And we hate to hear that the only Hebrew Bible is from the 10th century, when a Greek version, the LXX, is 1,200 years older, but that is how YHWH, glory be to His mighty name, deemed it to be.
One day Codex 95, The Babylonian Talmud, will be moved to the Library of Israel, rather than it’s current home, the Bavarian State Library in Germany. To me, it’s preposterous for the Talmud to be sitting in Bavaria, knowing the historic suffering endured by Zawada under Hitler’s Nazi minions.
It’s cognitive dissonance at it’s finest and Jews have found ALL KINDS of neat little arguments to get around this truth.
Yet, the Talmud tractates are studied and taught as unmolested commands from YHWH himself when the Masoretic Torah from the 10th century proves otherwise. In fact, neither manuscripts agree with one another.
To understand how this came about and whether the Talmud should be addressed as merely a historical archive aiding in Torah study, not the other way around, we need to look at origin of words used historically. Forensic etymology alone proves whether there is scribal manipulation and how one should utilize any manuscript extant today – and that’s what is laid out here for the reader.
How did the word sage become popular?
The 12th century was wholly influenced by two rabbi, Rashi and Rambam.
Rashi (AD 1040-1105) was notably the greatest French rabbi, who is considered one of the greatest commentators of all time due to his voluminous work in Chumash (the five Books of Moses in Torah), Tanakh, and Talmud. Rashi, born and died in France, was a well respected man by both Jewish and Christian scholars. He was an excellent translator of Hebrew to French, thus, “sages” out of the Hebrew “chokma” for wise men and naturally the word stuck as he was the preeminent Talmud editor of his time.
Fast forward 33 years after Rashi’s death and the new Moses for rabbi is born.
Moses ben Maimon (Maimonides / Rambam) according to Stanford Encyclopedia (1138–1204) late 12th century, “is the greatest Jewish philosopher of the medieval period and is still widely read today. The Mishneh Torah, his 14-volume compendium of Jewish law, established him as the leading rabbinic authority of his time and quite possibly of all time. His philosophic masterpiece, the Guide of the Perplexed, is a sustained treatment of Jewish thought and practice that seeks to resolve the conflict between religious knowledge and secular.”
Rashi commentary is standard reading today in all Yeshiva as is Maimonides (Rambam) who is considered second only to Moses. This is not the whole story though as you can research yourself of these rabbi. Fast forward a thousand years as Talmud evolves amongst the Orthodox populace and we have what it is today.
All modern rabbi, sages, and their penned commentary is the authority that will govern any Jew who will listen to the army of rabbi enforcing their beliefs.
ALL Orthodox Jews are warned throughout Talmud tractate that if they speak a word against these sages, such as, Rashi and Rambam, they will be kareth – cut off from the community, financially, and spiritually. In fact according to the sages, if you talk bad about their opinion, or disagree with their prophetic work and words – you simply cease to be a Jew.
Mind you, all sages were born foreigners in diaspora, which was the judgment of YHWH on all of Israel from breaking mitzvot, disobedience, idolatry, manufactured traditions and scrutinizing mitzvot as seen fit by any rabbi, or King of the times.
Although it is forbidden by HaShem to go back and live in Egypt, Maimonides lived and died in Fustat Egypt and was physician to the Sultan of Egypt. The Guide to the Perplexed is written in Arabic and had to be translated to Hebrew, so naturally, it was protested amongst the European rabbi and there was division.
Rambam’s Mishneh, the compilation of 613 YHWH mitzvot made him famous. He categorized the commands into two category, 248 positive and 365 negative, for an easy to read study guide. There was only one problem, Rambam would leave out scripture he didn’t agree with, namely the fact of him living in Egypt, which was illegal to do so according to D’varim 17:16.
Rambam was fully aware of Deuteronomy 17:16 which reads,
“But he shall not multiply horses to himself, nor cause the people to return to Egypt, to the end that he should multiply horses: forasmuch as the Lord hath said unto you, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way.”
But in his compilation of the 365 negative mitzvot Rambam leaves out anything concerning Egypt. Why? Because he lived there and was breaking YHWH mitzvah.
Here is Rambam’s #363 negative command,
הזהיר המלך מהרבות סוסים. והוא אמרו לא ירבה לו סוסים, וגדר זה שלא יהיה לו סוס רץ לפניו ואפילו סוס אחד לא יהיה אצלו אלא הבהמה שירכב עליה לבד או סוסים שישימם באורוות כדי שיהיו מוכנים למלחמה ירכבו הפרשים עליהם אבל לעצמו לא יהיה לו אלא בהמה אחת לבד. והתבארו משפטי מצוה זו בשני מסנהדרין. (שם, שם פ”ג):
For a king not to accumulate many horses, as [Deuteronomy 17:16] states: “And he may not accumulate many horses.”
Where is the verse commanding not to go back to Egypt?
GONE BABY GONE.
This is obvious to any rabbi reading this verse and knowing the history of Rambam.
So why was there a Jewish community in Egypt when YHWH forbid to go back that way?
Many Jews were settled in Spain/France by the 10th century and all rabbi were aware of Ezekiels prophecy,
Therefore thus says the Lord God: “Because you have spoken nonsense and envisioned lies, therefore I am indeed against you,” says the Lord God. “My hand will be against the prophets who envision futility and who divine lies; they shall not be in the assembly of My people, nor be written in the record of the house of Israel, nor shall they enter into the land of Israel. Then you shall know that I am the Lord God. Ezekiel 13:8-9
So the rabbi’s in Spain and France could not say anything against Rambam living in Egypt, although it was forbidden to do so, as they also lived outside Israel because of disobedience to Elohim. Rebellion and rejection of HaMashiach caused Yom YHWH and the destruction of Beit HaMikdash.
According to the academic Director for manuscripts in Jerusalem, Dr. Katz,
“…and mistakes, known as scribal errors, crept in during copying. Sometimes copyists read the text incorrectly, while on other occasions, they accidentally omitted entire words, phrases, and whole lines.”
Of course Dr. Katz is being nice to Rambam here, attributing the blatant omission to a scribe who copied it, which of course he knows without a doubt what Rambam did. He is simply not allowed to utter this truth as Rambam is a sage, and again, you cannot speak against a sage that he is wrong in any way shape or form.
Dr. Katz speaking against Rambam would quickly find himself unemployed and discredited in Israel.
As rabbi, you have no need I tell you this, you know it oh so well.
So knowing this truth, why have rabbi who lived after Ramabam never call him out on the removal of the scripture that condemns him?
It’s obvious the verse is omitted and we Jews love to argue, so why has no one made commentary in tractate explaining why he did it, or argue with this fact?
Everyone knew he lived in Egypt – so why did they just let it go over the centuries?
Rambam, being a master orator and respected scholar was able to do what we Jews are good at – argue his way around YHWH mitzvot until he won the argument, as he was second to none at debating Talmud.
That’s one thing gentiles don’t understand about Jews – we love to argue (debate). Maybe it’s part of our DNA and he who wins the argument is the head rabbi, regardless if you’re right or wrong.
You can be a crafty, silver tongued devil, and all that matters is that you prove the other person inept or wrong as the American court system so eloquently displays.
Naturally, Rambam’s Arabic treatise didn’t go over too well with the French and Spanish established Jewish communities; an Egyptian doctor who speaks Arabic, was telling the Jews that the Talmud was going to change with his new writings.
You can imagine the uproar.
Rambam was declared a heretic by the Spanish Jewish communities and possibly the French as well.
We don’t change easy and have proven as Jews that we are masters of resisting assimilation from the “new guys” that come along with a “new plan” or treatise from God.
The most respected Spanish rabbi of the time, Nachmanides, had to step in after Rambam wrote his Guide to the Perplexed, as he was labeled a heretic by the rabbi of Montpellier France. The Rambam, with his advanced abilities in arguing Talmud, won the day after a public burning of his manuscripts two years before his death.
The story goes he had family in the King’s court and with favors had the accusers tongues cut out. If this is true that would certainly put a stop to the naysayers and those opposing him.
Rambam was obviously a very intelligent man, as one can glean from his work. So when you have a guy that comes along who is wise, creating a new work that has never been seen before, the Mishneh compilation of 613 mitzvot, you think, “Man, this guy must be from YHWH, no one else is doing this!”
Further evidence of Rambam manipulation of scripture is found in the Zohar, which is supposedly written by Shimon bar Yochai in 2nd century AD. Here is what wikipedia has to say about it,
“Simeon bar Yochai, also known by his acronym Rashbi, was a 2nd-century tannaitic sage in ancient Judea, said to be active after the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 CE. He was one of the most eminent disciples of Rabbi Akiva, and attributed by many Orthodox Jews with the authorship of the Zohar, the chief work of Kabbalah.”
Wikipedia is amusing as always to say the least. People will believe anything.
First off, the word sage didn’t exist until 1200 years later, second there is absolutely NO, NADA, BUPKUS, evidence of the manufactured date – just dead pan fictional statements from scholars.
Here’s an example: The Eiffel Tower is the worlds tallest building. FACT from 1889 to 1929 until the Chrysler building was built. If you have no idea the Chrysler building exists then you believe the Eiffel Tower data.
The same is true when examining Jewish historical information – those who don’t know the data – why should you?
Knowing the data means you can argue the facts apart from academic bias and discrimination. It means understanding the “cover ups” and the deranged philosophy of a few that control many. In essence, the Jewish population that serve these mountebanks and goyim who believe the drivel, exist in glass cages.
You can break the glass at any time, but not without knowledge.
You’ll believe any narrative pushed to you by those either ignorant or attempting to manipulate the data.
Back on track..
HOWEVER, we do know Rambam translated a copy of the Zohar and history records such, as well as the wording in Zohar itself. Here is an excerpt from Zohar from “The Lock and the Key,”
“A gate signifies a vessel, a desire to receive the Light. In the spiritual world, there are no bodies, only desires. The desire itself is called “a body.” If there is no desire, there is no body, as there is no vessel to receive the Light (pleasure). The bigger the desire, the bigger the body. However, all the bodies are similar in structure; just as a human body in our world consists of 613 parts, the spiritual body consists of 613 spiritual parts (desires). If one is able to use one of the desires of his spiritual body for the Creator’s sake, such action is referred to as a Mitzva (commandment, good deed). The received Light is called Torah.”
This paragraph from the Zohar is wrong on many accounts based on enormous amounts of scripture and biological science – it’s called speculation and theory. However the point is, Rambam most likely wrote this, not Simeon bar Yochai.
Rambam’s Mishneh compilation formulated the 613 mitzvot and his Zohar translation introduces his “613” as a mystical philosophy as his son Avraham was also an avowed Islamic sufi. He was a physician to the sultan of Egypt and well respected, thus, his theory of the 613 body parts, which matches the 613 mitzvot.
How do we know this? Well, because there isn’t 613 mitzvot. This is a personal opinion formed by early rabbi in diaspora. Rambam was the guy who made the concept stick.
This was not a new concept.
In Makkot 23b we find Rabbi Simlai gave a sermon darash Rabi Simlai,
“613 commandments were communicated to Moses – 365 negative commands, corresponding to the number of solar days [in a year], and 248 positive commands, corresponding to the number of the members of a man’s body.”
This may be shocking to learn this reality so read on and throw off the shackles of your ignorance.
Anyone can say there are 600 mitzvot instead of 613 found in Torah or the Bible: Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.
You can say there is 596, 603, 589 – this is opinion.
“Some sages enumerate 613 mitzvot in diverse ways…but the truth is that there is no end of the number of mitzvot…and if we were to count only the root principles…the number of mitzvot would not reach 613.
Ibn Ezra (1089–1167AD)
Nachmanides (1194–1270AD) himself stated in Hasagot there was no certainty of this 613.
RaLBaG (Gersonides 1288–1344AD) – wrote that the number is only homiletical, teaching that Jews should obey God’s laws with their entire being (248 organs) every day for the 365 day solar calendar.
Modern rabbi such as Israel M. Kagan come up with half that number for mitzvot.
Other scribes attempted adding the lighting of Chanukah candles into the list of mitzvot…
What we do know and academia in Israel agree is this,
“In short, a careful examination of Maimonides’s Sefer Hamitzvot, which contains his listing of the 613 commands, and his Mishneh Torah, his code of Jewish laws, shows that the rabbis changed Judaism. They gave the Hebrew Bible a meaning that is not the literal meaning of the text, changed the biblical laws, and invented laws that were later included in the list of 613 biblical commands.” Link
You can manipulate the number anyway you like simply by combining mitzvot together or spreading them apart, line by line, just like Rambam did.
Anyone can come up with a number of their choosing and Rambam chose 613, based off his earliest teachings from his Grandfather and his mystic Zohar writings which matched his theory on how many body parts there are as a physician and what he was told in his studies.
The Jews of Europe/Egypt/Spain were illiterate and ripe for change in diaspora, while Rambam was a unique orator and doctor, so of course they listened to him.
The reality is, Rambam could write Arabic, Aramaic/Hebrew, and use Rashi’s new French words, like sage, in his writings, while the illiterate Jews could only succumb to persuasive doctrine.
Yet it was his son, Rabeinu Avraham haChassid, that was his most ardent supporter and wrote “Milchamot Hashem” to edify Rambam amongst the Jewish communities after his death. It is said that had it not been for his son’s work of edification, Rambam would never have gained universal recognition and adoration as a sage.
However, Avraham was a Sufi mystic and one of the reasons Kabbalah communism exists today. Like his father, Avraham would lead the Egyptian Jewish community as Nagid (chief/prince) as well as his sons for the next six generations and establish Jewish magic/myticism from the Islamic Sufi point of view to Jews the world over.
In fact this Sufi / Kabbalah ideology captivated the Jewish culture and led directly to a false prophet named Shabbatai Tzvi, who claimed himself the Messiah with his home base in Smyrna.
This proved historic in that much of the world Jewish population followed him. His fame was known from the Levant to Europe and Asia as the year 1666 approached. Yet, you never see any teaching on this as the data gives too much information on the heretics leading to this development.
Samuel Primo sent a letter to all the Jews in Smyrna and abroad,
“The first-begotten Son of God, Shabbethai Tebi, Messiah and Redeemer of the people of Israel, to all the sons of Israel, Peace! Since ye have been deemed worthy to behold the great day and the fulfilment of God’s word by the Prophets, your lament and sorrow must be changed into joy, and your fasting into merriment; for ye shall weep no more. Rejoice with song and melody, and change the day formerly spent in sadness and sorrow into a day of jubilee, because I have appeared.”
“Sabbatai was taken from Abydos to Adrianople, where the sultan’s physician, a former Jew, gave him three choices; subject himself to a test of divinity in the form of a volley of arrows (in which should the archers happen to miss his divinity would be proven), convert to Islam, or be impaled. On the following day (September 16, 1666) he was brought before the sultan, cast off his Jewish garb and put a Turkish turban on his head. Thus his conversion to Islam was accomplished.”
Sabbatai stopped being Messiah the moment he realized he was going to eat arrows for breakfast or be sitting on a stake until death and converted to Islam as did Rambam at a young age.
Notice above that the Sultan’s physician is called a “former Jew,” the reason for this is in order to serve the Sultan you must convert to Islam as was required for Rambam and ALL who served the court.
Orthodox Jewish scholars, however, reject this fact and continue to claim that he only “pretended to convert,” which is pathetically absurd.
In order to serve the Sultan, conversion to Islam was a requirement, no matter how many loony bin fanatics proclaim otherwise and want to rewrite history to their own personal ridiculous narrative.
What’s the requirement of Islam or to serve a Sultan?
You must pray 5 times a day towards Mecca in devotion, which was required of Rambam as well as the following:
- Shahada – one must believe and pronounce, “There is no deity worthy of being worshipped except Allah and Muhammad is His messenger.”
- Salah – prayer five times a day as taught by Muhammad.
- Zakah – annual charity obligation according to city/area customs.
- Ramadan fasting
- Hujj – pilgrimage to Mecca required at least once of which Rambam did.
Rambam is celebrated in Israel and Orthodox Judaism the world over as a complete Jewish persona, a revered sage, and pinnacle of Judaic belief, where in fact this is not the case at all. He was recorded in history as an Islamic convert, regardless of the lies from both Hasidic and academic mania.
ALL reality of his conversion to Islam is waved off as “not binding,” or “dubious” and shows you the complete denial, hypocrisy, and ignorance not only of the academics who claim to be legitimate, but of any serious talmidim attempting to follow YHWH.
Anyone who grasps historical fiction as a lifeboat for their truth is surely lost at sea!
Naturally, rabbi want the fact of Rambam’s Mecca pilgrimage hidden as you can’t be both a Jew and Muslim can you?
The fact of the matter is, to serve the Sultan you must be donmeh, or a converted Jew to hold the position as physician – end of story, case closed.
“The sultan was much pleased, and rewarded Sabbatai by conferring on him the title (Mahmed) Effendi, and appointing him as his doorkeeper with a high salary. Sarah and approximately 300 families among Sabbatai’s followers also converted to Islam. These new Muslims thereafter were known as dönmeh (converts). The sultan’s officials ordered Sabbatai to take an additional wife to demonstrate his conversion. Some days after his conversion he wrote to Smyrna: “God has made me an Ishmaelite; He commanded, and it was done. The ninth day of my regeneration.” https://www.geni.com
Sabbatai after conversion played the two face card for the Jews and Muslims as was required. He was required to speak highly of Muslims and be detested by Jews and then try to gain the side of the Jew to retain some form of respect.
Rambam clearly did similar in his writings – yet the blind refuse to admit this. Rambam argues for Jewish singularity in the world, but exults Muslims at the same time, which he is required to do. Doing otherwise would mean losing his position to the Sultan and the wealthy patrons of the court. The Modern rabbi who bury this under his “complete Jewish persona” are charlatans at best.
Here is an excerpt from Rambam,
“These Ishmaelites are not idol worshippers in the least, and has been long since cut off from their mouths and their hearts, and they worship the singular God properly and without any blemish.” Rambam
The above is diametrically opposed by Israel today.
What Rambam wrote above is considered idolatry by Jews today. You can’t be both a Jew and a Muslim based on the fact sects of Islam calls for the destruction of Jews and recognizing Muhammad as a prophet when the Jews do not. They are clear on both ends and in which YHWH Himself will elucidate.
That is why in Israel you see new writings coming out from rabbi and university teachers who shed light on Rambam and tell history as it is. Those trapped in cults will continue to cling to their warped ideology and protect their fictional personnas and traditions created in diaspora at all cost.
Maimonides primarily wrote in Arabic, another fact adoring rabbi leave out. His Guide for the Perplexed had to be translated from Arabic.
Modern orthodox Jewish scholars reject these facts, but then again reject anything that states other than their fictional traditions, which they vehemently lash out at anyone who offers a light of truth that may result in freedom to their blind devotees.
If you are to understand history you must take into account the culture of life during the author’s time in history, not deduce a modern opinion emanating from someone pushing a fictional religious point of view.
Rambam lived in a time of complete Islamic control which had assimilated and possessed the Levant since 650 AD. In 1148 the Almohad Caliphate (Sunni Islam) conquered Cordoba Spain and decreed that Jews and Christians were to convert, exile, or be put to death.
Rambam chose to stay in Spain through conversion as a young man starting out in life. This was a simple decision as Islam dominated the land and treated Jews fairly, dependent on where you lived. Conversion to Islam was a necessity of life for Morrocans and Spaniards who wished to continue to live amongst their family under a continuance of Islamic control that had already been in place for four hundred years.
The Jewish communities that converted had to wear insignia identifying them, a foreshadow of what the Nazi’s would do in the future as well as the antichrist. Just as during Hitler, many Jews tried to pretend they were not Jewish and said they were Christian or German to no avail.
Hitler killed without discrimination. If your family history displayed you were a Jew like Zawada, your religious preference didn’t matter; if you were secular, Islam, Buddhist, or Christian you were told to get on the train.
I’m sure it worked for some of the more elite figures, but not the poor living in the ghetto.
Rambam, born around 1135 AD, remained in Spain by converting to Islam, which is of course argued by modern Jewish rabbi, who adore him as a god, and consider his conversion – not legally binding….ahem.
Makes you think you’re in a court room saying, “the gloves don’t fit.”
You can’t make this stuff up.
That’s what they’ll tell you when you’re offered the mark of Onpiov – “it’s not legally binding.”
If right now you don’t see the complete hypocrisy and ridiculousness that Rambam is considered second to Moshe in the Bible then you must truly be blind out there.
Rambam moved from Spain to Morocco in the 1160’s AD, also controlled by the Almohad, and it is stated he wrote his Mishneh commentary while there. I find this information, as purported on wikipedia, dubious at best as during this time there was a great purge of Christians and Jews between 1146-1173 AD and all writings other than Islamic in nature were burned.
Wikipedia should stick with modern propaganda and leave history be.
Rambam moved to Egypt and by 1171 was appointed head of the Jewish communities (Nagid) and served Sultan Saladin as a physician. Clearly the Sultan would not allow someone who did not have faith in Islam to be in his court. Rambam was what the Turks called donmeh, a converted Jew to Islam and recorded as being highly intelligent.
Historically we can see Jewish physicians serving Sultans or wazir and they are all donmeh, but for the purpose of protecting the infallible sage title given to Rambam, Orthodox rabbi must reject this reality.
This fact alone literally destroys any notion that Rambam was not a practicing Muslim (bowing to Mecca 5 times a day) as this is an absolute enforced requirement.
Not only was Rambam required to revere Muhammad as prophet of Allah, but to openly delcare such. Yet we see very little scholars elaborating on these facts, nor wikipedia as according historical authenticity – very few communicate the real history.
I believe it was Egypt where Rambam was free of Islamic persecution due to his conversion, where he wrote his commentary for Talmud, the Zohar, Guide for the Perplexed, and his most famous work the Mishneh or compilation of the 613 mitzvot and halachic instruction.
Only those who actually READ, or STUDY the works in etymology can understand the “add ons” of commentary and rewriting of Zohar/Talmud by the hands of a few men.
Academics call this modernizing, when in reality it’s just another translation of Biblical script and mysticism.
It comes down to how great you can argue your knowledge of the scriptures, which Rambam could do fantastically. He didn’t become head physician to the Sultan of Egypt without brains and skill being above average.
If you can win the argument, your legit – and so Talmud evolves, regardless if the work is labeled heretical or not, which Rambam’s writings at the time were called heresy.
Again, once this happens, that your writings are accepted by the head rebbe – that’s it… done.
Once you’re a commentator in Talmud – you become what modern rabbi call a sage.
Sage status is considered “divine” and “infallible” in rabbinic Judaism to degrees based on the sect you are from.
According to Nachmanides, “The wisdom of the rabbis of the Mishnah and Talmud, as well as the Geonim (rabbis of the early medieval era) was unquestionable. Their words were to be neither doubted nor criticized.”
“We bow before them, and even when the reason for their words is not quite evident to us, we submit to them.”
Thus, any heretical work can “creep in” if you are a super smart debater or well respected.
What the sage pronounces as truth is observed, regardless of facts, and if you don’t believe it – YOU ARE DEEMED A HERETIC.
This same rabbi Nachmanides was exiled out of Spain by King James I of Aragon who is quoted as saying,
“I have never encountered a man who, while yet being so wrong, argued so well for his position.”
That’s how we roll.
And that’s how it works, regardless of whether there is manipulation or reworking of the word of YHWH.
In this generation we live now, a new Talmud will be birthed from modern rabbi who want to be Rambam; we see this happening daily on youtube.
Get your name into legendary status through commentary and take your place amongst the sages of old; your name in bright lights until Mashiach returns and wipes it all out.
The hypocrisy has no bounds as Jesus made very clear.
Of course Eloheinu judgment is from YHWH to Rashi, Maimonides, all sages, and all people. All of us without HaMashiach Jesus must alone face YHWH at judgment, regardless of what any rabbi or priest says.
It’s easy to lead a student with “you don’t understand the mitzvot” when that person will listen to everything you say without question. To those of us who are not slaves to rabbi, but serve the real Mashiach Jesus, we know better, and choose only to believe YHWH scripture.
Do modern day orthodox rabbi hate Christians?
First and foremost, logically, not all teachers (rabbi) hate anybody. Many are simply following the tenets they have learned from their earliest years. A more precise terminology would suggest, loathe. To many, Christians are considered worse than idolaters who worship Zeus or statues based on Rambam’s Laws of Idolatry.
A host of tractate denounce gentile populations, Christianity, and Jesus the Nazarene as found within Gittin/Sanhedrin and contain absolute hate speech. Some of which contain the following:
- blasphemous insults
- call to genocide
- racial discrimination
- limited reproduction
To which any historian could argue the Church of Rome committed the same atrocities and that the worship of images (a cross) is forbidden.
Does this include every rabbi everywhere? Of course not!
Some have hate in their hearts and believe in misinterpreted text from men a thousand years ago living in Europe and Egypt.
You can see anti-Christian rhetoric in just about every HBO series, Showtime, Cinemax, Amazon Prime, Hollywood movies, and regular TV. It is made clear by some Yeshiva across the nation; the literal hatred for Chritianity and the desired demise of such. Yet none can air in media or reveal this truth to society lest there be a mighty backlash against ALL Jews, not just those responsible for their actions!
It’s the relentless pursuit of putting out the fires of atheist billionaires and their perverted media filth the world over. Not only do Talmudists engage in Anti-Christian doctrine, but apparently agree with the pornography, ursury, and hatred piled on the gentile nations. Failure to denounce such heinous activity is the cause of antisemitism against regular working Jews the world over.
YOU out there – the rabbi consulting the billionaires and telling them they do the work of Israel and pat these depraved souls on their back – YOU are the one who causes antisemitism against ALL us Jews!
Many times in history antisemitism was created by ignorant scribal leaders who would state in their writings desire of the destruction of those they lived amongst, unethical behavior to their neighbors, and the heinous, open mocking of Christ Jesus in the most sadistic manner.
Of course this created antisemitism! As it does this day!
And we regular Jews ALWAYS must pay for your ignorance and stupidity! With the breaking of our shop windows, the hatred against the regular Jew, WHO IS NOT A BANKER, and the cursing of our name because of what you rich apostates do under a banner of the rebbe!
The propaganda of the Christian being a White American Nazi is simply for division as is creating a white vs black atmosphere for the erosion of Christian political power, and their employed tools to sow deception, confusion, and economic destruction – which according to Rav Huna, Bava Kamma 113b, is forbidden.
Apostates push divison on you and laugh at your complete ignorance of this (literally you are totally mocked as dumb sheep) and the regular Jews keep their mouths shut for fear of reprisal of which is universal and swift.
To the apostates you are considered a sub species, a genetically inferior bug – an ox pulling a cart.
It is and always has been the rich crazed zealots, atheists, and those perverted by false doctrine!
The New HBO series, The Plot Against America, the Philip Roth novel brought to screen by David Simon is the fake historic anti-American fantasy of a man who hates Christians and desires what Rambam’s Laws of Idolatry aspire – the complete destruction of Christians.
Christians, according to illogical tractate, are fit only for destruction, while gentiles (goy) are considered mere animals fit only to serve; both are considered soul less in some cults.
If you are now saying, “YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME,” read on.
Maimonides (Rambam), Laws of Idolatry, 10:1
But as regards informers and minim (Christians) and apikorsim, it is a duty to destroy them and to cast them into the pit of destruction because they persecute Israelites and turn the nation away from God, like Jesus of Nazareth and his followers, and Tzadok and Baitos and their follower, let the name of the wicked rot.
MINIM = CHRISTIANS = DESTROY THEM
Rambam, Laws of Testimony, 11:10
But these people who rebel and reject faith (Jewish Christians) are worse than non-Jews. For a non-Jew one does not save him from death, but does not bring about his death either, and the righteous among them have a share in the World to Come. But as for these – we are to destroy them and not save them, and they have no share in the World to Come.
So yes when you teach a twelve year old boy, that he is not to have anything to do with Christians, and that they legally need to be destroyed – that is true discrimination and hate speech.
You don’t see anyone talk about this and of course the New York Times would never print a story about their local Yeshiva’s that teach this. Quite honestly the doctrine is no different than Nazi clubs the ADL wishes to shut down.
All of what is said here is rebutted as antisemitism, but as can be clearly seen, I am merely writing what Rambam has said as accepted since the 13th century and what prominent Yeshiva teaches.
The real question is – why do you keep teaching rambam apostacy?
However, I do not believe Rambam actually wrote the Laws of Idolatry as historical evidence prove that within his communities (Cordoba/Fustat) both Jews and Christians were persecuted along side one another by invading Muslims.
Moreover, Rambam’s writings were for the intellectual elite and as a doctor he spent most of his time in servitude to the sick at the cost of his own health. While in Egypt Rambam served Jews and gentiles for medical aid, so it is difficult to believe such fermented hatred for Christians when daily he would view their plight while healing them – as opposed to aggadah tractate.
The Laws of Testimony state, “we are to destroy them and not save them.” Yet Rambam was saving the goyim daily as a physician; the statement is diametrically opposed to reality and can be concluded to emanate from another rabbinic author.
But this is speculation. We do know Rambam played the part of two different people – one to the Jews, and one to the Muslims. This fact is clear not only in his writings, but in the historical tenure and requirements of his positions.
This abhorrent hatred for Christians absolutely can be ascribed to later rabbinic authors as Christian persecution against Jews forthcoming in 17th century Europe would prove out in every nation their feet did land as my family Zawada can so attest in Poland.
The current town of Zawada is 35 miles from Auschwitz, where Zawada Jews perished alongside Christians and all those who had Jewish lineage or caught up in the Nazi swell.
What we do find as historical evidence for Talmud tractate is overwhelming manipulation by scribes who had an agenda, either to enhance their own status or Yeshiva as a sage, or to gain spiritual power to control a community.
We see this clearly with the Mamonidean dynasty that stretched for over a century. One mans house clung to power over an Egyptian community as primary Talmud commentators for as long as they could.
You can read Maimonides laws of idolatry & repentance, Gittin 57a, Sanhedrin 43a, Bavli, Avoda Zara, Responsa etc, all online for yourself and make your own judgments.
Bas relief of Maimonides (Rambam) over the gallery doors of the House Chamber in the U.S. Capital.
You may want to ask your state representative why a portrait of a guy whose attributed writings declare all Christians to be destroyed from the earth is hanging in the House of Representatives. Interesting to note how ill informed the population really is when it comes to ideology and philosophy.
There is no hiding the hatred of Christianity as accorded to Rambam by modern rabbi, so why deny it, or say it’s antisemitic to pronounce such?
Does reform rabbi believe this?
Does it matter? What matters is what the material says, NOT, what an individual believes.
Now we are at impasse. All who believe Rambam in Judaism are to define Christians as the enemy. They are commanded to seek your destruction by any means possible, financial, medical malpractice, poisoning, murder, or otherwise as it has been deemed LAWFUL and MITZVAH by the sage Rambam for your complete destruction.
There is no debate here, nor argument. The writings attributed to Rambam are very clear in Christian destruction by rabbinic Judaism.
According to a prominent New York Yeshiva,
“the purpose of the process is to ensure that the ger (prospective Jew) accepts not only the obligation of the mitzvot (from Rambam) but the yoke of the mitzvot – the full gravity of the obligation.”
This is a Torah Rabbinical school in New York folks.
It’s outrageous! All this does is CREATE ANTISEMITISM and give Jews a bad name.
I’m guessing the ADL response will be something like, “It’s just a misinterpretation of what was said.”
I remind you the Ger in Israel had a yeshiva shut down for “misbehavior,” and misinterpretation of tractate.
It’s up to every person who believes in YHWH to put pressure on your states AG or Senator. Do something if you have it in your power. Let your Senators know that you WILL NOT tolerate hate speech and hate crimes against Christians or Jews at any level.
Any school that promotes a misguided teaching of Talmud, that Christians should be eradicated, is no different than Hitler’s total solution and should absolutely be corrected and chastised appropriately. The end result of Hitler’s hatred to the Jews was genocide and it is no different with Rambam’s teaching – both are the same – destruction of a people.
The word “Christian” is hid in tractate words as idolatry and “minim,” or the insult to Jesus as in Yiddish “Yoske Pandre,” son of Pandera. The hatred and malevolence of Christianity has been hidden from American society due to the lessons in Europe (Talmud burning, mass persecution) as antisemitism rears it’s ugly head rapidly, as it did viciously against my grandfather and his siblings.
HOW LONG CAN YOU KEEP THIS HIDDEN?
REMOVE THE APOSTATE WORK FROM TALMUD.
Some Jews want to pretend that none of our persecution in history happened and they can behave any way they wish in society with no consequences.
A perfect example of this is sassaiola, or the annual stoning of Jewish homes in Spain/Italy, of which we have stories that go back to the 16th century after Talmud was circulated amongst the educated population.
One particular case occurred in Löwen Westphalia Germany 1705,
“Abraham had sent his son to the store of a Christian grocer to buy flour. Another customer, a Christian by the name of Caspar Nübel, suddenly took the boy’s jar and broke it to pieces by throwing it on the ground. The Jewish boy complained loudly, but Nübel drew his dagger and threatened him with the words: ‘Whether one kills you or a dog, there really is no difference’. When the alarmed father arrived at the scene, Nübel receded but announced that the Jew’s ‘windows would soon rattle’. A few days later, Abraham’s windows were indeed smashed during the night. When the authorities later arrested the intoxicated Nübel, who was an obvious suspect, he confessed the deed.” Bernd-Wilhelm Linnemeier (Münster 2004)
The quoted statement from the drunken Nubel, “Whether one kills you or a dog, there really is no difference,” is from Talmud tractate and why he and the rest of Christian society at this time is extremely venomous.
Christians were all too aware of what the leading rabbi were teaching to their talmidim in response to overwhelming Christian conversion. The rabbi knew that as their ranks shrank, so did their finanical and spiritual control. Traditions as with any family passed from generation to generation, yet this had nothing to do with unscrupulous rabbi using Talmud as propaganda, or as a tool for stopping conversion and keeping their brain washed flock in the fold.
Martin Luther made vivildy clear that Christians would not tolerate rabbi talking about Jesus “boiling in excrement” or that it was “legal to kill Christian and gentiles as they were soulless animals.” Martin Luther, of course, is depicted by jewish historians as a frothing at the mouth Christian hell-bent on destruction of the Jews as a people.
Never is it discussed by these same historians the verses in tractate that Luther was arguing while condemning these ignorant rabbi with their own written words. The revised rabbinical Talmud was being burned for this very reason, but this is always described as antisemitic rather than a response to heinous insult and depravity of saying “Jesus was boiling in excrement” and “it’s okay to murder a gentile.”
These facts are always left out and in their place is “antisemitic Christian hate.”
As a Jew whose family lived under Henry Ford and Hitler, we must not allow such atrocity to happen again. The definition of Never again is to rid our Jewish culture of the ideologies of lying charlatans and snake oil salesmen who sell our people a new religion born in Europe and Egypt, comprised of false prophets, false teachers, and rich politicians clinging to power under a banner of hate and war.
Modern teachers, of course, argue they don’t believe this, but that’s a lie and there is no reason to debate such filth they will deny anyway. Any debate of such the scriptures are turned about on their head and these persona believe can commit perjury anytime they like (lie as they please for the good of their community) and then wipe out their guilt on Yom Kippur – logical debates are an act of futility.
I have made it quite clear above that Yeshiva in Riverdale New York believe this dogma and teach destruction of Christians openly as do many. Once can clearly see the BLM/Antifa movement is funded by organizations such as AIPAC/ADL and whose intention is to eradicate Christianity.
The ADL makes clear in their Amicus filings of their anti-Christian stance and pursuit in shutting down churches. The ADL has made clear their strategy of fighting directly against YHWH under the propaganda heading of “human rights” and “social justice.”
YHWH will not be mocked nor be used for political dogma by apostates.
Again, regular Jewish people do not think this way, only a small corrupt spawn, brain washed into training others to be brain washed and become terrorists – follow willy nilly the pied pipers to hell as Adonai has said,
“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel land and sea to win one proselyte, and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves.” Matthew 23:15
The U.S. was at one time 90% Christian, but eroding now as Jesus and the apostles prophecy predict and in which those who serve θηρίον Moshiach will fulfill.
Now of course what I am saying, most orthodox rabbi, if not all, will call this an attack on all Jews, or again, antisemitism. But Jews who disagree with Gittin, including karaite, and Rambam’s laws of idolatry, cannot be antisemitic against ourselves!
For Jews, to call Jews antisemitic, is the same as Hitler calling his Hitler youth, Nazi scum – it’s laughable!
Especially when your family was murdered by Hitlers minions. It’s an insult, and it’s pathetic on part of those attempting to win a debate by playing the anitsemitic card.
The rebuttal of “You’re a Christian, not a Jew,” didn’t matter to Hitler.
YHWH will exact His revenge on ALL who come against His people in whom He calls His own. I declare YHWH, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, my God in whom I stand before, the creator of all things and beings and in which His Torah will judge all people in perpetual.
Rambam’s mitzvot to destroy Christians is taught in Yeshiva today. Yeshiva such as Yeshivat Chovevei are considered “poskim of the highest caliber and advanced Torah study for the modern orthodox community.” They make no effort in hiding what they believe about minim.
If you say this is antisemitism, go ahead and call the rabbi and have him explain laws of idolatry, take a course at Yeshiva and learn about the idolatry of gentiles and worse, the Christian, as believed by misguided Rambam worshippers.
YHWH fearing Jews are not Christian hating, frothing at the mouth wretched people. And I say wretched, for if you desire the destruction of your fellow man, you DO NOT SERVE YHWH, nor understand His mitzvot.
Many will say, “We are merely repeating what the great sages have said,” of course you are, and those that teach it, believe it.
Those who hate and wish murder are of their father the devil, and him, belial, do they serve.
They are the curse of Jacob in Genesis 49:5-7,
“Simeon and Levi are brethren; instruments of cruelty are in their habitations.
O my soul, come not into their secret; unto their assembly, mine honor, be not united with them: for in their anger they kill men, and for pleasure they maim oxen.
Cursed be their anger, for it was fierce; and their wrath, for it was cruel: I will divide them in Jacob, and scatter them in Israel.”
Any person who wishes to promote fantasy tractate within Talmud when the stories are egregious lies and evil are going to be called out for such, plain and simple.
When in reality, it’s a free for all of changing the rules or omitting them, as Rambam has done, when seen fit. It’s about changing the legal do’s and don’ts based on where you live and what crime you have committed and adjusting, or upgrading the word of YHWH to relinquish your guilt, or insure financial / political gain. This is called “my opinion.”
Like the surrounding of all things in the world we live, the tractate of Talmud is an archive of the commands of YHWH and the flawed humanistic interpretation of legality; the utter manipulation of scripture and Satanic interpolation by the lusts of men disguised as an argument in right vs wrong under duress of heinous sin.
The student of Talmud, the talmidim, requires the opinion of his rabbi; the student will hardly understand the merits of assault vs consensual sexuality or that governing sodomy. He needs to be instructed in such.
If there is any young person reading this now, NEVER agree with your rabbi or priest that you are required to perform a sexual mitzvah or any act that requires you to touch the private parts, or do anything sexual to your rabbi or priest.
Never listen to any teacher that tells you that you are required to perform a sexual act as a “rite of passage,” or as a requirement in any way. They are evil men who ask this, or require this, and will suffer YHWH wrath for all eternity.
As students of Talmud, we know the hidden secrets not made known to the public. We understand the basis of announcing 3 year old girls ready for intercourse and betrothal and boys under 9 viewed as inanimate objects of pleasure, yet all of this is debated as “hear say,” or “an improper understanding” of Talmud, when in fact this has been going on for centuries.
Many rabbi and catholic priest are currently awaiting trial for “rites of passage” taught generation to generation. The current case being prosecuted in New York is with a well known rabbi going back to the 1960’s! He would target holocaust kids and say, “telling your parents will only increase their suffering,” as according to court records.
All his up and coming talmidim were being groomed, to not only approve of what he was doing, but take the “rite of pasage” to pass onto the next generation. You know who you are!
Another dramatic case is currently in Israel by a certain leader’s son. This is the top spiritual leader world wide. Of course they deny the allegations from MULTIPLE witness and they have closed the yeshiva where the acts occurred.
The victims out there know too well the cover up and there is no argument that will make this go away or forgotten. It doesn’t matter how many reporters or newspapers are paid off – the truth will be revealed.
The citizens of Israel describe these religious sect as, and I quote, “cults”.
Rabbi Shmuel was undoubtedly the expert when it came to sexual analysis and legal definition of such, which is well defined, and he originated many new legal maxims.
The argument of “legal sex” is viewed as speculation or from a “what if” this happened scenario approach to define what a Jew can or cannot do in Judaism and rabbi Shmuel has many opinions covering many tractate.
In other words the rabbi said, “Hypothetically, if a small child were assaulted, how should we handle it?”
At which the opinions were given and questions asked like,
“How old is the child; boy or girl?”
“Is the child betrothed or not?”
“Is the child a gentile?”
“Who assaulted the child, a Jew or gentile?”
“Was the child consensual or under the age of understanding?”
That’s why you see arguments or quotes from people saying, “Talmud teaches to rape,” which is not true, from opposition who are not accustomed to reading Talmud. Again, they do not understansd they are reading from a “what if?” scenario.
So laws have been drawn up spanning millenia that govern all sexual acts and how rabbi are to judge acts in any manner that arises and of course those who study Talmud are fully aware of the ideology as modern Judaism and Catholicism upholds until caught or prosecuted.
In Israeli history we can find a perfect example of abuse with David’s son Amnon. Absalom’s sister was named Tamar and Absalom’s half brother Amnon loved her. Well there was no way she was going to be with Amnon, seeing that he was her half brother, so Amnon decided to rape her.
This did not bode well for Amnon, as Absalom killed him for assaulting his sister.
Historically when a woman is raped, the perpetrator is not killed, nor jailed, but chastised and fined. He has to pay a fine, BUT, he gets the victim as his wife. Although she wants no part with the assaulter, guess what? The rapist gets her as his wife.
He gets what he wanted in the first place as long as he is willing to live with the shame. This created an atmosphere for being in the best interest of the perpetrator as arguments evolved – especially for those under the age of 9 as tractate teaches.
If an assault happens under the age of 9, the assaulter has to agree to marry the girl, and if a boy, as long as the child is not consensual (denoting sin), he merely is too young too understand what is happening and nothing may happen to the one doing the act.
Meaning, if the rabbi or priest is prominent, it gets shoved under the rug, or as we see in the current New York prosecution, taught to young boys who carry the practice of sexual assault onward.
This is argued as just a historical problem and Judaic rabbi as well as Catholic priest vehemently deny such, but they are liars. This is systemic within both cults.
This is taught in Yevamot 57b, 60b, Sanhedrin 54b, 55b as arguments of how to govern sexual scenario. The argument modern rabbi approach to defend this is to say, “it’s against mitzvot to rape.”
Duh, every moron knows that! However, this is a defined “area” and can be redefined at any time by a prominent rebbe as seen fit as has been done and abused for centuries.
Grey area definition – 8 out of 10 believe child abuse is wrong, what do the other 2 believe?
The prosecutions paint a different story.
When concerning gentile children, tractate in Talmud is clear on the legality concerning a Jew and the limited ramifications for doing heinous acts.
Moreover, child rape, condones one is to marry the child. It shouldn’t matter that any pervert or lawyer will argue this fact as historical prosecution prove otherwise.
Again, the court cases prove other than the lies purported and other than the ideology believed by many a rabbi or priest; the voices of the victims themselves cry out from the cults they find themselves trapped.
The main argument today is that we live under laws and are obligated as Jews to follow the laws of the land – of course we are!
There are many legal arguments for the outcome of rape and sodomy of which all is played out in “scenario argument” of “what if’s” to define the legal outcome of rape and child abuse found within tractate.
Some systems not only reward heinous sin, but manifests an inner circle of criminal pedophiles, generation to generation, as prominent rebbe/rabbi/priest, of which can be seen in current conviction and prosecution.
You can view the court records yourself.
When the victim says this,
“They don’t talk about such things in Ger,” he said. “It’s not talked about. Our biggest disgraces are things like that. No one tells. No one talks.”
Then you know you are in a cult.
We know that a system of rape reward determines the statistics and we see it rampant in both Catholicism and sect of Judaism as again, systemic.
I dare anyone to debate this truth and you will find yourself with your tail between your legs.
What’s the whole point here you might ask?
The point here is to show the faulty aspects of men. Examining where these concepts arose, how they arose, and who is still teaching such dogma, should be the question in the hearts of all serving Torah.
Man made traditions handed down in both Christianity and Judaism reflect the inner workings of sin and how to get around being labeled a sinner, or getting away with what you are doing through legal precedent established over centuries.
How men can “step by legal step” manipulate legal text to define their sin as “ok” in this regard or that regard, which commentary by sages in tractate do so well and we end up with this,
“BOULDER – This afternoon, Governor Jared Polis and First Gentleman Marlon Reis were wed in a traditional Jewish ceremony surrounded by close family and friends. Colorado Gov. Jared Polis, the first openly gay man elected governor in the United States, has married his longtime partner in the first same-sex marriage for a sitting governor.” https://www.yahoo.com/news/colorados-polis-marries-longtime-partner-031703012.html
How do two men get married in a traditional Jewish wedding when Torah rejects this abomination?
22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination. 23 Nor shall you mate with any animal, to defile yourself with it. Nor shall any woman stand before an animal to mate with it. It is perversion. Leviticus 18
Of course these “new Jewish beliefs” are an offshoot of Judaic reality born out of Europe and America in which men marry one another to live out their lives in apostacy under “traditional Jewish concepts.”
Again, if you point this out that they are breaking mitzvot and causing the wrath of YHWH we are told that we are antisemitic self hating Jews that need to get with the times in churning out golden calfs.
All of this evidence clearly displays the absolute apostacy of a group that decided they were going to make up the rules as they proceed through life insulting thousands of years of actual traditon while laying claim to a new anti-Torah religion designed out of the lust of the flesh and abominable acts which caused diaspora.
In regards to the meaning of 666, we can clearly see the manipulation over the centuries from mitzvot to that of traditions of men and satanism which will culminate in beast Moshiach. To understand where we are in the present, you need to understand the past, and what teaching has led to where we are now with men marrying men under the guise of “Jewish tradition”.
The apostate thinking was born out of centuries of misinterpreted text culminating in a “I can do what I want attitude under Yom Kippur,” since we are all little gods, or chosen people.
YHWH says otherwise,
“Present your case,” says the Lord.
“Bring forth your strong reasons,” says the King of Jacob.
22 “Let them bring forth and show us what will happen;
Let them show the former things, what they were,
That we may consider them,
And know the latter end of them;
Or declare to us things to come.
23 Show the things that are to come hereafter,
That we may know that you are gods;
Yes, do good or do evil,
That we may be dismayed and see it together.
24 Indeed you are nothing,
And your work is nothing;
He who chooses you is an abomination.
These personas are anti-Christian to the bone just as Hitler was anti-Jew to his core and will result in the same answer – attempt at genocide.
Anti-Torah, anti-Christian will prove their belief in their writing, as seen above, and in their crazy quasimodo manipulation of scripture as seen when it comes to child betrothal, sodomy, and homosexuality.
This is why Jesus is described as “boiling in excrement,” by sage wizards and being raised by the dead just to be mocked.
These are cult practices, not from God, but from Satan.
Just as Henry Ford proved he was antisemite in his writings, so to does everyone who speak ill of Jesus the HaMashiach (Messiah).
If you refute any of the utter nonsense of Gittin, Yevamot, and Sanhedrin you are an antisemite; possibly a white nationalist Nazi, as we now see the current daily trend against white Christians in the media at every level.
I predict a host of anti-Christian dogma from Netflix, HBO, Showtime, & Amazon Prime. Movies, sitcoms, and popular “reality TV” will be mocking Christians and painting them as the real psychopaths and white Nazi’s that should be murdered.
The more subtle messages will be that Christians are s
Shows like the Watchmen (HBO) and The Boys, Good Omens (Prime), have a 100% anti-Christian message to the masses.
What these authors and corporate owners believe is not Judaism, nor the legitimate aspects of Talmud. For this debases Talmud into hate speech, satanism, and is a warped version of Judaism; just as the Branch Davidians were a warped version of Christianity and led to murder and suicide.
If you disagree with such attacks upon ourselves and the Messiah Jesus, then according to the editor of the Babylonian Talmud, it is reverse, YOU, are attacking the Talmud believing Jews. YOU become the antisemite for disagreeing about being attacked.
This is not what the Talmud is about!
Imagine if you will, the New Testament adding another canon called “Child sacrifice and the religious merits,” you would be appalled, correct?
The Talmud is primarily about the rule of law, righteousness, and how to be a better person and yet the additional warped theology and explanations or “legal stance” and commentary concerning livelihood, murder, rape, gentiles, and Christians from evil men only strengthens the character of darkness or Satanism the opposition looks for.
This warped ideology taught in Yeshiva is out of hate, not love, or anything to do with logic, or decency.
Does a man parry a sword thrust, or just let the sword pierce his heart?
Do you counter the argument with reason, or let the foolish speak complete vanity?
Will you let your home be built upon sand with no foundation, or tell the builder to go packing?
These things are common sense.
Manipulation and propaganda is how Hitler controlled the youth in Germany, by portraying my family members as soul less, dirty rats with disease that should be removed from society. This resulted in Zawada members being murdered in Auschwitz and Dachau.
As a Jew or rabbi, knowing this suffering, why would you take this lesson from Hitler and project it onto goyim?
You have forgotten your way and the justice of YHWH.
הִגִּ֥יד לְךָ֛ אָדָ֖ם מַה־טּ֑וֹב וּמָֽה־יְהוָ֞ה דּוֹרֵ֣שׁ מִמְּךָ֗ כִּ֣י אִם־עֲשׂ֤וֹת מִשְׁפָּט֙ וְאַ֣הֲבַת חֶ֔סֶד וְהַצְנֵ֥עַ לֶ֖כֶת עִם־אֱלֹהֶֽיךָ׃
He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
כֹּ֚ה אָמַ֣ר יְהוָ֔ה שִׁמְר֥וּ מִשְׁפָּ֖ט וַעֲשׂ֣וּ צְדָקָ֑ה כִּֽי־קְרוֹבָ֤ה יְשֽׁוּעָתִי֙ לָב֔וֹא וְצִדְקָתִ֖י לְהִגָּלֽוֹת׃
Thus said the LORD: Observe what is right and do what is just; For soon My salvation shall come, And my deliverance be revealed.
Have rabbinical Jews been persecuted by Christianity throughout history?
Absolutely, by warped ideology and hatred.
Even as our Adonai, has said, “Forgive them, for they know not what they do.” It is every parents hope to see their children better off than themselves and I weep for Israel’s deception! I weep for those locked in destitute lies and hope they may escape to the salvation of their souls.
“But all their works they do to be seen by men. They make their phylacteries broad and enlarge the borders of their garments. They love the best places at feasts, the best seats in the synagogues, greetings in the marketplaces, and to be called by men, ‘Rabbi, Rabbi.’ But you, do not be called ‘Rabbi’; for One is your Teacher, the Messiah, and you are all brethren. Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. And do not be called teachers; for One is your Teacher, the Messiah. But he who is greatest among you shall be your servant. And whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.
“But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in. Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you devour widows’ houses, and for a pretense make long prayers. Therefore you will receive greater condemnation.”
“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel land and sea to win one proselyte, and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves.”
“Woe to you, blind guides, who say, ‘Whoever swears by the temple, it is nothing; but whoever swears by the gold of the temple, he is obliged to perform it.’ Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gold or the temple that sanctifies the gold? And, ‘Whoever swears by the altar, it is nothing; but whoever swears by the gift that is on it, he is obliged to perform it.’ Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifies the gift? Therefore he who swears by the altar, swears by it and by all things on it. He who swears by the temple, swears by it and by Him who dwells in it. And he who swears by heaven, swears by the throne of God and by Him who sits on it.”
“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone. Blind guides, who strain at a gnat and swallow a camel!”
“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you cleanse the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of extortion and self-indulgence. Blind Pharisee, first cleanse the inside of the cup and dish, that the outside of them may be clean also.”
“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs which indeed appear beautiful outwardly, but inside are full of dead men’s bones and all uncleanness. Even so you also outwardly appear righteous to men, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.”
“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you build the tombs of the prophets and adorn the monuments of the righteous, and say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.’
“Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers’ guilt. Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell”
“Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city, that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.” Matthew 23:5-36
Now, this is the tip of the iceberg. Those with Phd love to tear apart the New Testament and Jesus as Messiah. Those who know Mashiach will do the same educating here against cult writing and warped ideology the world over ascribes. The bitter end to all of this is Christian persecution as Jesus says must happen.
Now all Christian hatred and the destruction of such as taught by Rambam and tractate shall be given as mitzvah by θηρίον. Naturally, this is what is agreed upon by sages and nothing new. The difference here is that the beast will enforce this as actual halakha, or law upon the nations.
Although all modern Jews, Christians, Islam, forensic experts, and historic scholars have access to the same lingua franca to debunk evidence for or against Talmud, ONLY sage commentary is the authority according to rabbi. Granting sages the status of divinity thereby negates any legal, legitimate cross examination of Torah/Talmud notably Rambam of the 12th century.
In essence the 12th century was pivotal in Judaic logic. Not only did a new wave of Torah interpretation take place, but any new understanding or evidence of manipulation is a violation of their sage exegesis, even if YHWH or Nevi’im is exposing their rebellion. Thus, again the song of Moses, D’varim 32,
32 For their vine is of the vine of Sodom, and of the fields of Gomorrah: their grapes are grapes of gall, their clusters are bitter:
33 Their wine is the poison of dragons, and the cruel venom of asps.
34 Is not this laid up in store with me, and sealed up among my treasures?
35 To me belongeth vengeance and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.
36 For the Lord shall judge his people, and repent himself for his servants, when he seeth that their power is gone, and there is none shut up, or left.
In essence these men had set the stage for all time for themselves, the children of doom as written so many thousands of years ago.
The talmidim who follow them, the Baal’s, to be the inerrant voice of god, and all rabbi that agree can rise to the ranks of their status – the sage, the Greek word for those who worship a false god.
- Rashi, a French rabbi in the 11th century has the greatest amount of writing for Talmud tractate.
- French Rabbi choose the word sage, a heretic Greek word for those who worship Greek idols to represent themselves.
- The sages consider themselves divine, proving this is a new religion developed by foreigners in diaspora of which YHWH warned through Nevi’im (prophets) against!
- The French word sage is now seen in Hebrew literature 12th century.
- Rambam, 12th cent, considered second only to Moses in Orthodox Judaism, lives in Egypt transgressing Deuteronomy 17. He pens new halacha and is declared a heretic by French rabbi.
- Rambam declares Mashiach Jesus and Christian Jews heretics, worse than goyim, fit only for destruction due to growing Christian dominance and conversion.
- Rambam dies in Egypt, which scripture states false prophets will die outside Israel, and then becomes a sage through tractate commentary by Sufi mystics.
- The oldest Babylonian Talmud extant today is created in France AD 1342.
- Commentary of historical rabbi such as Rav and Shmuel (3rd century) with a “sage” rendering in text, prove scribal manipulation after the 12th century, as the word sage didn’t exist during their time.
- YHWH states we are to try all prophets to see if false or not, which sages through France forbid, as their voice and who they support is infallible.
- Historical figures, like Rav Huna, and commentary bearing their name have little or no documentation to verify they are indeed their words and not a 14th century scribe, again this fails YHWH mitzvot.
- There is no “authoritative word proving it,” only new halakhah and commands by sages, which now override Moses, Torah, and YHWH mitzvot.
- Everything of Israel is manipulated by sages: from karbanot, all yom tov / holidays, Torah service, Shabbat, Shmita, Pesach, Yom Kippur, Sukkot even the date of creation which changes all historical dating!
- The cancer of false sages have taken root in Europe and spread as Talmud rabbi pile on halacha to the mountain tops through “traditions” making Jewish life an utter misery of constant worry, which forces more harsh legal communal consequences to stop those fleeing total slavery to European traditions.
- In the 20th century If you do not accept sage concepts – you are no longer considered Jewish, proving this is not from YHWH as numerous Tanakh (original scripture) debunk this ideology. See what happened to rabbi Zev Porat when he discovered Jesus is HaMashiach.
- Cults believe Rambam’s mitzvah to destroy Jewish Christians and goyim as a literal ideology. It is hate speech and the same as the Nazi agenda or final solution.
- The atheist is now considered “Jews” and get a pass as they can provide financial means, or business benefits – total hypocrisy, injustice, unjust weight which led to diaspora. Amos 8, Jeremiah 5. Jeremiah 32:32
- Political atheist Jews like Ayn Rand and Bernie Sanders are celebrated as heroes and visionaries which also led to diaspora, Pslam 10, Psalm 14, Psalm 53, Nehemiah 9.
- Both Catholic and Orthodox cults, priest / rabbi, are indicted for decades of child abuse through “rite of passge” and false tractate ideology.
- False teachers erroneously tell children that Christian’s and goy do not have a soul, are animals, or good only for servitude or destruction. They are indoctrinated from earliest language development and traditional insults (spitting on the cross or spitting as you walk by a Christian church).
- Christian destruction (minim) is believed and taught as basic Judaic dogma by anti-religious cults to those seeking to become a Jew (ger). YHWH is against all who do such things and your body/soul is in jeopardy of eternal damnation (kareth).
The Talmud was developed in diaspora after YHWH rejected the sanhedrin and all rabbi due to their rebellion, apostasy, sacrificing their children to molech, rejection of His mitzvot, setting up of idols, murder, injustice, unjust weights, treachery and a host of complaints of which Eloheinu has made known for centuries through His Nevi’im such as Ezekiel 8.
DO NOT USE TALMUD to make treachery against YHWH again; remember,
ס֣וּר מֵ֭רָע וַעֲשֵׂה־ט֗וֹב וּשְׁכֹ֥ן לְעוֹלָֽם׃
כִּ֤י יְהוָ֨ה ׀ אֹ֘הֵ֤ב מִשְׁפָּ֗ט וְלֹא־יַעֲזֹ֣ב אֶת־חֲ֭סִידָיו לְעוֹלָ֣ם נִשְׁמָ֑רוּ וְזֶ֖רַע רְשָׁעִ֣ים נִכְרָֽת׃
צַדִּיקִ֥ים יִֽירְשׁוּ־אָ֑רֶץ וְיִשְׁכְּנ֖וּ לָעַ֣ד עָלֶֽיהָ׃
“Turn away from evil and do good; so shall you dwell forever. For the Lord loves justice; he will not forsake his faithful servants. They are preserved forever, but the children of the wicked shall be cut off. The righteous shall inherit the land and dwell upon it forever.”
The real Mashiach Jesus only wishes to save you and provide Ruach Hakodesh, the Holy Spirit of YHWH for your blessing, deliverance and peace.
Do you see the difference between love and hate or are you lost forever?
Don’t be a robot slave, blindly following masters who teach hatred and violence to your eternal destruction.
YHWH will prove Jesus is Mashiach to any person of any color or race, goy, Jew, or rabbi who will ask for proof and salvation. May He glorify His name to you and YHWH deliver you from the darkness that ensnares this world.
Now that you are slightly educated in modern belief of Moshiach to come you can begin to understand how this beast persona is addressed in society.
Orthodox Judaism manipulated through European rabbi in diaspora, called sages, will welcome the beast with open arms and revel in creating new laws (halacha) for the destruction of you – the Christian and Jew out there, based on Rambam’s mitzvah.
- “And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations – started in AD 70 with destruction of Beit HaMikdash and Jerusalem.
- and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled – started 1967 when Jerusalem retaken during Six Day War.
- Hebrew year 5750 (1989 AD), the millennial ‘time-clock’ had reached the time of the of Eve of Shabbat.
- 2016 – The first time a jubilee year celebrated out of diaspora since Jerusalem was destroyed AD 70 !
- Christianity is in erosion (not the great falling away).
- The dollar will collapse soon (before 2065).
- Living tattoo’s exist, chip implants, as do living statues that can communicate (Siri, Alexa, Echo, AI).
- All media entertainment, celebrity, music, and News is conglomerated.
- Global disarmament for citizens has begun.
- Talmud & Kabbalah gaining notoriety amongst apostate celebrities/elite.
- Satanic, ritual conditioning becoming acceptable in society.
- Religious global unity under the Pope’s Human Fraternity For World Peace.
- Next Jubilee year starts 2065/66
Will θηρίον Moshiach come by the next jubilee? This author believes yes.